[comp.unix.questions] Orange book levels for HP-UX versions

cszrhodes@qut.edu.au (Tony Rhodes) (02/19/91)

First of all, apologies if you have seen this message before and/or some of 
my test posts. Having some problems with the mailer.

At the moment I am working on a paper with some other people concerning the 
security of HP-UX. The paper is along the theme of evaluating the security 
provided by HP-UX from a non-privileged user perspective using the criteria 
discussed in the European "White Book", Information Technology Security 
Evaluation Criteria (ITSEC).

What we wish to verify are the claimed TCSEC "Orange Book" ratings for 
HP-UX 6.0  C1 ??
HP-UX 7.0  C2 ??
HP-UX 8.0  >C2 ????

Also, can anyone verify if and when HP recieved its certificate with the 
appropriate rating and official seal from the NCSC for each of these 
versions.

Finally, what security changes/additions did HP have to make to HP-UX to 
achieve each of the ratings for the particular versions.

I will post a summary of responses to the net if sufficient interest is 
shown.

Please reply by direct e-mail.

Thank you in advance.

jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F Haugh II) (02/19/91)

In article <1991Feb18.165006.24108@qut.edu.au> cszrhodes@qut.edu.au (Tony Rhodes) writes:
>Also, can anyone verify if and when HP recieved its certificate with the 
>appropriate rating and official seal from the NCSC for each of these 
>versions.

I'm posting this because companies now seem to think that making unsupported
claims regarding security evaluations is something they can get away with.

To the best of my knowlege, HP has never received a formal letter on any
of their products.  In any case, you can always request a copy of the final
evaluation from your sales representative or directly from the NCSC.  The
address of the NCSC is

	National Computer Security Center
	9800 Savage Road
	Fort George G. Meade
	Maryland 20755-6000

You may wish to begin by asking for a copy of the "Evaluated Products
List".

I =strongly= encourage anyone being told by their sales representative that
the software they are about to purchase has some "Orange Book Letter" to
immediately request a copy of the final evaluation.  They are incredibly
dry reading, but you can't get one unless the product is really formally
evaluated - blue letters don't count.

I will say that "C1" is pretty trivial, as is "C2" - however, there is
functionality which must be present at even those very low levels, and I
am doubtful about how close to even "C1" or "C2" an unrated product is
going to be.  Note also, that without having been submitted for evaluation,
even an unrated product does not merit a "D" (the lowest) rating.
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