KX10LYC0%TWNITRI1.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (05/24/91)
Hello:
I am a Sun SPARCstaion 1+, 2, IPC user, and do my document on the
machines by using -troff-.
There is one problem which troubled me so much. That is:
I CAN'T FIND THE ---pic---, ---grep---, etc. ON SUN OS 4.*.*
ENVIRONMENT.
In Sun OS 4.*.*, you can only find the troff/nroff, tbl, eqn, and some
macros for processing text. But Sun does not ship the tools for gerenating the
picture/graph which UNIX System V does.
Without the -pic- -grep- help, it will be a very hard work for inserting
the picture in your document even the picture is a very simple graph.
So if you know how to solve this problem or how to get the -pic- -grep-
tools, please let me know. Your kindly answer will be highly appreciated!!!
Thanks!
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------RAPHAEL@s51.prime.com (Nick Raphael) (05/24/91)
Date: Fri, 24 May 91 09:52 U
From: KX10LYC0%TWNITRI1.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
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Subject: Help for pic/grep on SunOS 4.X.X
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Hello:
I am a Sun SPARCstaion 1+, 2, IPC user, and do my document on the
machines by using -troff-.
There is one problem which troubled me so much. That is:
I CAN'T FIND THE ---pic---, ---grep---, etc. ON SUN OS 4.*.*
ENVIRONMENT.
In Sun OS 4.*.*, you can only find the troff/nroff, tbl, eqn, and some
macros for processing text. But Sun does not ship the tools for gerenating the
picture/graph which UNIX System V does.
Without the -pic- -grep- help, it will be a very hard work for inserting
the picture in your document even the picture is a very simple graph.
So if you know how to solve this problem or how to get the -pic- -grep-
tools, please let me know. Your kindly answer will be highly appreciated!!!
Thanks!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Y.C. Lin Bitnet: KX10LYC0@TWNITRI1
Internet: KX10LYC0%TWNITRI1.Bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
TEL: 886-35-917336
FAX: 886-35-917503
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--- Reply by RAPHAEL :
I believe you mean grap, not grep, and I'm not aware of
Sun ever providing pic. AT&T's SVR4.X, which incorporates Sun's
Berkeley doctools, doesn't include pic either.
Nick Raphael
Standard Disclaimergwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) (05/25/91)
In article <27001@adm.brl.mil> KX10LYC0%TWNITRI1.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu writes: > I CAN'T FIND THE ---pic---, ---grep---, etc. ON SUN OS 4.*.* > ENVIRONMENT. > In Sun OS 4.*.*, you can only find the troff/nroff, tbl, eqn, and some >macros for processing text. For reasons that I don't understand, Sun decided not to make the Documenter's WorkBench package (which is where "pic", "grap", etc. come from) available, even via separate licensing. The "troff" etc. that they DO provide are the old C/A/T-specific versions, not the modern device-independent troff that the Documenter's WorkBench provides. You can license Documenter's WorkBench directly from AT&T, but you'll need to get the sources and port it yourself, or find someone who has done so.
bill@camco.Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) (05/28/91)
In <16261@smoke.brl.mil> gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) writes: :In article <27001@adm.brl.mil> KX10LYC0%TWNITRI1.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu writes: :> I CAN'T FIND THE ---pic---, ---grep---, etc. ON SUN OS 4.*.* :> ENVIRONMENT. :> In Sun OS 4.*.*, you can only find the troff/nroff, tbl, eqn, and some :>macros for processing text. :For reasons that I don't understand, Sun decided not to make the Documenter's :WorkBench package (which is where "pic", "grap", etc. come from) available, :even via separate licensing. The "troff" etc. that they DO provide are the :old C/A/T-specific versions, not the modern device-independent troff that the :Documenter's WorkBench provides. :You can license Documenter's WorkBench directly from AT&T, but you'll need to :get the sources and port it yourself, or find someone who has done so. I think these are also supported by groff from the gnu project of the Free Software Foundation. I haven't tried to get groff running yet because it is written in c++ (g++) and I don't have that running on my Xenix box yet either :-( Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: ...!thebes!camco!bill 6641 East Mercer Way uunet!camco!bill Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591
adrianho@barkley.berkeley.edu (Adrian J Ho) (05/29/91)
In article <1054@camco.Celestial.COM> bill@camco.Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) writes: >I think these are also supported by groff from the gnu project of >the Free Software Foundation. I haven't tried to get groff >running yet because it is written in c++ (g++) and I don't have >that running on my Xenix box yet either :-( Well, the groff package has pic, but not grap. It's still useful if you don't have the DWB installed on your system, though: prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu/groff-1.01.tar.Z [18.71.0.38] Of course, if you don't absolutely need to use troff, I'd recommend TeX instead. 8-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adrian Ho, EECS (pronounced "eeks!") Dept. Phone: (415) 642-5563 UC Berkeley adrianho@barkley.berkeley.edu