alvitar@madhat.UUCP (Phil Harbison) (06/11/87)
I support the moderated source newsgroups; however, it is obvious that many news readers are unhappy with the way comp.sources.misc operates. Hopefully there is a way to salvage the benefits of a moderated news- group without giving up the benefits of the old net.sources. A moderated comp.sources.misc newsgroup has the advantage of eliminating the following types of messages. [1] please {mail,repost} part I of J [2] please {add,remove} me {to,from} the list [3] can someone send me the source to {rogue,empire,hack,etc.} [4] XXX doesn't compile on ZZZ machine [5] looking for a program that does ... [6] please stop posting [1] through [5] to *.sources As the administrator of a site that tries to archive *.sources, I find I spend alot of time sifting through the archive eliminating articles such as these. Having a moderator perform this task for the entire net would save alot of human and communications resources. Since I pay the cost to get comp.sources (via UUNET) at this site, I can certainly appreciate any savings in communications costs. What I do find disturbing are the rules by which comp.sources.misc is moderated. I think what most news readers want is a good supply of sources, without the six classes of articles listed above, posted to the net with as little delay as possible. I would like to suggest that the charter of comp.sources.misc be changed to the following rules. Rule 1 - Reject or redirect anything that is not source. The six classes of articles listed above should be redirected to comp.sources.{bugs,wanted,d}. All binaries should be redirected to comp.binaries.*. Create the appropriate comp.binaries.* newsgroup if necessary. Rule 2 - Post anything that looks like source code immediately. I appreciate the extra effort expended by the comp.sources moderators in testing code and adding makefiles, but that doesn't seem to be what the majority wants in comp.sources.misc. If the moderator finds a bug or develops a makefile, a patch or followup can be posted later. About the only thing the moderator should do is re-shar large articles into small pieces. I welcome discussion of amendments or alternatives to the rules I have suggested (follow-ups are directed to news.groups). I hope we can reach a compromise soon and put an end to the anarchy that has developed in response to the current state of the source groups. Is there a standard procedure for changing the charter of a newsgroup? -- Live: Phil Harbison USPS: 3409 Grassfort Drive, Huntsville, AL 35805-5421 Uucp: {clyde,uunet}!madhat!alvitar Bell: 205-881-4317