[comp.sources.d] 3demo program, really Subject line

daveb@gonzo.UUCP (Dave Brower) (09/25/88)

In article <469@snjsn1.SJ.ATE.SLB.COM> greg%sentry@spar.slb.com (Greg Wageman) writes:
>On an unrelated subject:
>
>I would like to vote for changing the "Subject:" lines of multi-part
>postings to be all identical, and have the part numbers be somewhere
>else.  This is so that the "-S" option of rn can find all of the parts
>of a posting before moving onto the next subject.  With the part
>numbers in the subject line, each part becomes effectively a different
>subject as far as rn is concerned.
>
>Thanks.

No thanks.  A lot of archiving gets an Index from the Subject line.
Without differences between parts 1 and N of a multipart posting in the
Subject, it would be really hard to figure out what was what.

Is "=" that hard to use in rn?

-dB

weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Obnoxious Math Grad Student) (09/26/88)

In article <426@gonzo.UUCP>, daveb@gonzo (Dave Brower) writes:
>No thanks.  A lot of archiving gets an Index from the Subject line.
>Without differences between parts 1 and N of a multipart posting in the
>Subject, it would be really hard to figure out what was what.

With an extra "Part: ##" heading, automatic archiving could proceed
just as nicely.

ucbvax!garnet!weemba	Matthew P Wiener/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720

jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US (The Beach Bum) (09/27/88)

In article <14711@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Obnoxious Math Grad Student) writes:
>With an extra "Part: ##" heading, automatic archiving could proceed
>just as nicely.

the Archive-name: header which rich $alz and brandon add to their
postings makes automatic archiving a snap.  now, can they just remove
the "part" stuff from the Subject: line???
-- 
John F. Haugh II (jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US)                   HASA, "S" Division

      "Why waste negative entropy on comments, when you could use the same
                   entropy to create bugs instead?" -- Steve Elias

rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) (09/28/88)

John F. Haugh II <jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US> writes:
>the Archive-name: header which rich $alz and brandon add to their
>postings makes automatic archiving a snap.
Thanks!

>                                            now, can they just remove
>the "part" stuff from the Subject: line???
Nope.  I get more complaints when it's not there, and it's too useful
to be able to see if you've got everything before unshar'ing, after
re-mailing, etc. etc.
	/r$
PS:  Please make it easier to read your articles by fixing your CAPS key...
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greg@bilbo (Greg Wageman) (09/30/88)

In article <426@gonzo.UUCP> daveb@gonzo.UUCP (Dave Brower) writes:
>In article <469@snjsn1.SJ.ATE.SLB.COM> greg%sentry@spar.slb.com (Greg Wageman) writes:
>>
>>I would like to vote for changing the "Subject:" lines of multi-part
>>postings to be all identical, and have the part numbers be somewhere
>>else.  This is so that the "-S" option of rn can find all of the parts
>>of a posting before moving onto the next subject.  With the part
>>numbers in the subject line, each part becomes effectively a different
>>subject as far as rn is concerned.
>>
>>Thanks.
>
>No thanks.  A lot of archiving gets an Index from the Subject line.
>Without differences between parts 1 and N of a multipart posting in the
>Subject, it would be really hard to figure out what was what.
>
>Is "=" that hard to use in rn?

As several other messages in this thread have pointed out, there are
already other header lines containing this information on postings
from some sources.  It is a small effort to add these lines where they
do not already exist.  The two forms would be used in parallel for a
transition period, to allow archiving software to be modified to use
the new header lines, and then eventually the "Subject:" lines would
become identical.  However, any required changes mean that some
considerable amount of USENET inertia must first be overcome; this is
often a formidable task.

As far as using "=", all this gets us under rn is a list of subjects
in the newsgroup.  It does not access each article so that we may save
them in a common directory.  Having all the "Subject:" lines be
identical would mean that we would see *all* received parts of the
posting, back to back, regardless of the order in which things are
received.  I guess not enough others feel this is a major gain.  Oh
well.


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greg@bilbo (Greg Wageman) (09/30/88)

In article <1100@fig.bbn.com> rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) writes:

>Nope.  I get more complaints when it's not there, and it's too useful
>to be able to see if you've got everything before unshar'ing, after
>re-mailing, etc. etc.
>	/r$
>PS:  Please make it easier to read your articles by fixing your CAPS key...

I'm getting really sick of these sarcastic postings.

If you know of a way to accomplish what is being discussed, then why
don't you simply say it?  I have not seen a command that will do what
I want; if I had, I wouldn't have made the original suggestion.

Perhaps you would like to restate your message?


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