[comp.sources.d] NN problems on a Gould

rcsmith@anagld.UUCP (Ray Smith) (06/29/89)

I compiled the NN source recently posted to comp.sources.unix on a Gould
PowerNode 6000 running UTX32 2.0/U6 without any problems being noted.
When the program is run it moves the cursor to the top right corner then
after a few seconds the following appears at the bottom of the screen:

No News
There are still ##### unread articles in ### groups.

and the program returns.

I have retraced all of the steps and read through the "PROBLEMS" file
several times and don't see anything that would indicate why it doesn't
work properly. If someone else has conquered this problem I would love to
hear about the solution. I know it must work on the Gould because there a
was machine dependent configuration file for a Gould.

Any help would be appreciated.
-Ray
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kim@kannel.lut.fi (Kimmo Suominen) (06/29/89)

In article <675@anagld.UUCP> rcsmith@anagld.UUCP (Ray Smith) writes:

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   From: rcsmith@anagld.UUCP (Ray Smith)
   Newsgroups: comp.sources.d
   Date: 28 Jun 89 18:41:21 GMT
   Reply-To: rcsmith@anagld.UUCP (Ray Smith)
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   When the program is run it moves the cursor to the top right corner then
   after a few seconds the following appears at the bottom of the screen:

   No News
   There are still ##### unread articles in ### groups.

   and the program returns.

That is exactly what happens on my HP9000/825.

   I have retraced all of the steps and read through the "PROBLEMS" file
   several times and don't see anything that would indicate why it doesn't
   work properly. If someone else has conquered this problem I would love to
   hear about the solution. I know it must work on the Gould because there a
   was machine dependent configuration file for a Gould.

   Any help would be appreciated.
   -Ray

I also read PROBLEMS and checked my s-file (I wrote the new one for hpux 3.0)
and m-file and couldn't get it to work.  Nncheck -t does find a lot of new
news and also nnadmin finds articles.  In my opinion nnmaster works and nn
doesn't.

If someone knows the solution, please, POST it or e-mail to me, too.

Kim
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anantha%ravi@Sun.COM (Anantha Srirama) (06/30/89)

kim@kannel.lut.fi (Kimmo Suominen) writes:

>In article <675@anagld.UUCP> rcsmith@anagld.UUCP (Ray Smith) writes:

>   Path: kannel!tut!draken!kth!mcvax!uunet!lll-winken!ames!haven!aplcen!anagld!rcsmith
>   From: rcsmith@anagld.UUCP (Ray Smith)
>   Newsgroups: comp.sources.d
>   Date: 28 Jun 89 18:41:21 GMT
>   Reply-To: rcsmith@anagld.UUCP (Ray Smith)
>   Organization: Analytics, Inc., Columbia, MD
>   Lines: 27


>   When the program is run it moves the cursor to the top right corner then
>   after a few seconds the following appears at the bottom of the screen:

>   No News
>   There are still ##### unread articles in ### groups.

>   and the program returns.

>That is exactly what happens on my HP9000/825.

>   I have retraced all of the steps and read through the "PROBLEMS" file
>   several times and don't see anything that would indicate why it doesn't
>   work properly. If someone else has conquered this problem I would love to
>   hear about the solution. I know it must work on the Gould because there a
>   was machine dependent configuration file for a Gould.

>   Any help would be appreciated.
>   -Ray

>I also read PROBLEMS and checked my s-file (I wrote the new one for hpux 3.0)
>and m-file and couldn't get it to work.  Nncheck -t does find a lot of new
>news and also nnadmin finds articles.  In my opinion nnmaster works and nn
>doesn't.

>If someone knows the solution, please, POST it or e-mail to me, too.

>Kim
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The reason 'nn' exits is because the next group in its list is blocked by the
'nnmaster' daemon.  The 'nnmaster' program marks a group as BLOCKED while it
is updating the database for that group.  Did you try to run 'nn' soon after you
started the 'nnmaster' daemon?  If so, 'nn' will generally exit after a couple
of groups (if you are lucky) becasue all the other are BLOCKED by the daemon.
I learnt about this the hard way.  If you want to verify my opinion try running
the program 'nnadmin' and execute a 'Validate' in the first menu and you will
immediately see all the groups that are BLOCKED.  The only way out of this is
to just sit around until the updates are complete (this takes forever in the
first run of NN package), after that it isn't so bad since it is update every
so often (depending on how nnmaster was invoked).  Hope that helps, good luck.



	-Anantha-

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steve@mahendo.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (3171) (06/30/89)

>   When the program is run it moves the cursor to the top right corner then
>   after a few seconds the following appears at the bottom of the screen:

>   No News
>   There are still ##### unread articles in ### groups.

>   and the program returns.

Did you take out the !! line in the LIBDIR/init file?  I had exactly this
problem until I realized that the !! line means to not present any articles
in the groups that follow.  (Actually, it means only present the groups
listed before this point in the file).

rcsmith@anagld.UUCP (Ray Smith) (07/01/89)

In article <477@mahendo.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> steve@mahendo.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (3171) writes:
>Did you take out the !! line in the LIBDIR/init file?  I had exactly this
>problem until I realized that the !! line means to not present any articles
>in the groups that follow.  (Actually, it means only present the groups
>listed before this point in the file).


I sure did. Since my original post I have recieved a note from Kim saying:
"Wait for patch #3, it might fix the problem (together with patch #2)."

I sure hope so.........
-Ray
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