flash@cs.qmc.ac.uk (Flash Sheridan) (07/04/89)
If you've already used rn seriously, don't bother with nn. The author is quite firm that your welfare is unimportant. It's a fair amount of hassle to get your .newsrc into the format required by the sequence part of your .nn/init; you'll have to edit it, and do diffs on your .newsrc and your site's active file. Your KILL files are history. The biggest bug is deliberate & permanent: it incorrectly marks articles as read [though you do have the option of incorrectly marking some as unread instead.] {The author claims "incorrectly" is wrong; he's lying.} You probably don't realize how awful this is. Our site has an antique bb system which does this; it has a rather useful group about the library, which contains both urgent messages ["the library is moving to a new building today"] and reviews of some learned journals. I read local news in the morning, when I can understand simple things; the news system then marks all the day's article as read. This means, in practice, that I never read those learned reviews. Killing is much more sophisticated than rn's, but doesn't work until it's too late: if half the articles in unix.wizards are on the Yiddish word for "belch", you can make all such articles disappear. The next time you read news, _not_ this time. I sometime quit & restart [slow; it's fast except on startup], to simulate rn's behavior. Auto-selection likewise. Other than that, it's beautiful. Normal group selction is clumsy; there's no way to find out which groups have unread news, except by finding out *all* groups which have unread news. You can page through groups, getting a whole slow screenful summarizing each; nn deliberately ignores the command you gave it a third of the way through to skip this group and go to the next, which means you have to stare at a group you don't feel like reading to see when it stops displaying and will listen to the command you just gave it and now have to give it again. Its knowledge of headers is hard-coded, and wrong. It doesn't even know about the "Summary:" field; this means you can't see it, _ever_; much less interesting non-standard ones [in England we have a "Kenneth-Baker:" field (he's the government agent in charge of destroying higher education.)] For all its deliberate user-hostility, it's a beautiful piece of work, and I use it about half the time. Try typing " " in the middle of a G [goto group] command. Auto-selection is a wonderful concept, well-implemented, except that it doesn't work. It really, truly, does save you oodles of time in news-reading. Pity that the people who should save time reading news are already using rn, and he's deliberately decided to make it difficult for them to change. But I think every site should have it; tell people who have never read netnews before to use it. Making it is straightforward; even *I* could do it, and seem to have been the first ever to Make it on a Sequent: there were two problems, one probably my fault, one described in the PROBLEMS file. -- --- From: flash@cs.qmc.ac.uk (Flash Sheridan) Reply-To: sheridan@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Portal,MacNet: FlashsMom