rasmus@dmntor.uucp (Rasmus Lerdorf) (05/29/90)
I have been patiently sitting around twiddling my thumbs waiting for the rest of the elm2.3 package to show up in comp.sources.unix. 9 of 27 files have made it to a couple of Toronto sites, but it has now been several days since anything has gotten here. News seems to be flowing ok, what gives? -- Rasmus Lerdorf | ..!geac!dmntor!rasmus (Work) (416) 362-0788 UW SD Eng. '93 | ..!geac!contact!rasmus (Home) (416) 833-6987
lauther@janus.Berkeley.EDU (Ulrich Lauther) (05/30/90)
In article <1990May29.142844.1114@dmntor.uucp> rasmus@dmntor.uucp (Rasmus Lerdorf) writes: >I have been patiently sitting around twiddling my thumbs waiting for the >rest of the elm2.3 package to show up in comp.sources.unix. 9 of 27 >files have made it to a couple of Toronto sites, but it has now been This is not the only problem: If you take a closer look you will probably realize that file 9 is corrupted: it contains only *part* of part09 and then continues with part10. Anxiously waiting ... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ulrich Lauther Internet: lauther@janus.berkeley.edu Siemens / UCB ph: +1 415 642 3338 fax: 642 2739
rasmus@dmntor.uucp (Rasmus Lerdorf) (05/30/90)
In <36599@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> lauther@janus.Berkeley.EDU (Ulrich Lauther) writes: >This is not the only problem: If you take a closer look you will probably >realize that file 9 is corrupted: it contains only *part* of part09 and >then continues with part10. Hmm.. I haven't looked at them yet. I figured I'd wait until everything got here. I guess I'll give up on it and ftp it myself, although that is a major hassle for me. -- Rasmus Lerdorf | ..!geac!dmntor!rasmus (Work) (416) 362-0788 UW SD Eng. '93 | ..!geac!contact!rasmus (Home) (416) 833-6987
rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) (05/30/90)
> it has now been >several days since [elm2.3] has gotten here. There was a weekend. More specifically, a holiday weekend. /r$ -- Please send comp.sources.unix-related mail to rsalz@uunet.uu.net. Use a domain-based address or give alternate paths, or you may lose out.
rasmus@dmntor.uucp (Rasmus Lerdorf) (05/31/90)
In <2583@litchi.bbn.com> rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) writes: >There was a weekend. More specifically, a holiday weekend. > /r$ Oops, oh yeah. I tend to ignore American holidays up here in Canada. -- Rasmus Lerdorf | ..!geac!dmntor!rasmus (Work) (416) 362-0788 UW SD Eng. '93 | ..!geac!contact!rasmus (Home) (416) 833-6987
mam@mamnix.as.sub.org (Michael A. Meiszl) (06/02/90)
This "posting-delay" forced some machines to expire the first parts before all parts arrived :-( I trained my machine to archive only complete packages. My expire level is a whole fortnight but please keep in mind that news take alot of time to reach us here in europe. So it sometimes happens that a new article is rejected by inews just because it is too old. Although 10 parts are lots of traffic, I think it would be better canceling the old parts and doing a complete repost (on one day please). regards mam -- Michael A. Meiszl, Tomsonstr. 25, 4700 Hamm 1 Internet: mam@mamnix.as.sub.org Voice: 0231/825985 Fido: 2:241/7.0 Data : 0231/822008 login box / uucp
randy@rls.UUCP (Randall L. Smith) (06/08/90)
In article <93449@mamnix.as.sub.org>, mam@mamnix.as.sub.org (Michael A. Meiszl) writes: > This "posting-delay" forced some machines to expire the first parts before > all parts arrived :-( > [ ..... ] > > Although 10 parts are lots of traffic, I think it would be better canceling > the old parts and doing a complete repost (on one day please). Because of the variability of this particular post of sources, I have had trouble keeping pace and filing appropriately. I *don't* think a repost is necessary (Michael, I'll mail those to you, just write). I would agree we could use a little quicker disbursment. This is far from a flame. Just reinforcing the idea, theres some difficulty. Also, (the real reason I'm writing ;-)) I lost elm part 22. Could sombody mail it to me? Thanks! Cheers! - randy Usenet: randy@rls.uucp Bangpath: ...<backbone>!osu-cis!rls!randy Internet: rls!randy@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
ewiles@netxdev.DHL.COM (Edwin Wiles) (06/08/90)
In article <93449@mamnix.as.sub.org> mam@mamnix.as.sub.org (Michael A. Meiszl) writes: >This "posting-delay" forced some machines to expire the first parts before >all parts arrived :-( Yes, this is sad. >I trained my machine to archive only complete packages. Well, then train it to archive the parts as they arrive. >My expire level is a whole fortnight but please keep in mind that news take >alot of time to reach us here in europe. So it sometimes happens that a new >article is rejected by inews just because it is too old. This I do not understand. It is my understanding that expire works on the date that the news REACHES YOUR SITE, not the date that it was posted! Therefore, inews should NOT reject an article for being too old. Am I mistaken on this? I rather doubt it because we've got really short expiration as well as frequent history file rebuilding and I DO see lots of duplicates. (DON'T WORRY! Due to our hardware constraints, we can't do anything else, so we don't forward any article that we didn't create. We are fully aware of the potential for network news disruption if we did forward non-locally created articles, so we don't! With luck, this situation will be fixed in the near future. [New Hardware!]) >Although 10 parts are lots of traffic, I think it would be better canceling >the old parts and doing a complete repost (on one day please). GOOD HEAVENS NO! Putting out the entire ELM distribution in one huge blob would be absolutely the WORST thing you could do. Moderators HAVE to take into consideration the situation of the sites they feed directly. The majority of such sites are going to be more than a little upset at having the entire thing dumped on them all at one time! Take the simpler paths: Option A: Increase the expiration interval on the comp.sources.unix group. This would allow you to keep your archiving unchanged, and the rest of the network wouldn't have to choke on huge blobs of posting. Option B: Change the way you archive. Our archiving software is written so that it grabs every posting that comes across, whenever it shows up, not just the completed archive. This would allow you to continue expiring news at your present rate, would avoid any purported problems with inews rejecting old articles, and again the rest of the network wouldn't have to choke on mass postings. Enjoy! Edwin. "Who?... Me?... WHAT opinions?!?" | Edwin Wiles Schedule: (n.) An ever changing nightmare. | NetExpress, Inc. ...!{hadron,sundc,pyrdc,uunet}!netxcom!ewiles | 1953 Gallows Rd. Suite 300 ewiles@iad-nxe.global-mis.DHL.COM | Vienna, VA 22182