[comp.sources.d] Standard archivers

jv@mh.nl (Johan Vromans) (01/27/91)

Since a good, reliable, portable archiver like zoo or lharc is a very
valuable tool for the UseNet society, how about trying to start
coordinated efforts to obtain such a tool. The currently existing zoo
and lharc programs may be a good start, their creators might wish to
join (or lead?) the team. 
A dedicated newgroup or maling-list would be the first step..

	Johan
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xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) (01/29/91)

Johan Vromans <jv@mh.nl> writes:

> Since a good, reliable, portable archiver like zoo or lharc is a very
> valuable tool for the UseNet society, how about trying to start
> coordinated efforts to obtain such a tool. The currently existing zoo
> and lharc programs may be a good start, their creators might wish to
> join (or lead?) the team.

> A dedicated newgroup or maling-list would be the first step..

Please feel free to use comp.sys.amiga.datacomm for such a discussion;
archiving, compression, and data sharing techniques are all explicitly
part of its charter, and are all reasonably platform independent
questions, by their very nature.

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russell@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Russell J Fulton;ccc032u) (01/31/91)

xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes:

>Johan Vromans <jv@mh.nl> writes:

>> Since a good, reliable, portable archiver like zoo or lharc is a very
>> [.....]

>> A dedicated newgroup or maling-list would be the first step..

>Please feel free to use comp.sys.amiga.datacomm for such a discussion;
>archiving, compression, and data sharing techniques are all explicitly
>part of its charter, and are all reasonably platform independent
>questions, by their very nature.

Yes but will most of us think of looking there. I am not interested in
Amigas (I am sure they are fine machines I just don't have access to one,
nor do I have the time for idle curiosity :-(.) and have unsubscrided the
comp.sys.amiga hierarchy.

Russell.

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xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) (02/01/91)

>Johan Vromans <jv@mh.nl> writes:

> Since a good, reliable, portable archiver like zoo or lharc is a very
> [valuable resource to the net, let's work on one.] A dedicated
> newgroup or maling-list would be the first step.

xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes:

> Please feel free to use comp.sys.amiga.datacomm for such a discussion;
> archiving, compression, and data sharing techniques are all explicitly
> part of its charter, and are all reasonably platform independent
> questions, by their very nature.

 russell@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Russell J Fulton;ccc032u) writes:

> Yes but will most of us think of looking there. I am not interested in
> Amigas (I am sure they are fine machines I just don't have access to
> one, nor do I have the time for idle curiosity :-(.) and have
> unsubscrided the comp.sys.amiga hierarchy.

That's probably why I keep posting this same invitation everywhere I see
this question arise. Having conducted not one, but two net votes, for a
total of 13 newsgroups, I can recommend it mostly as a pain to be
avoided where possible. Since a group with modest traffic exists in
which such conversations would be appropriate and welcome, is it out of
line to recommend that it be used for that purpose? Surely resubscribing
to one newsgroup can't be that big a trial?

I will freely admit to having included comp.sys.amiga.datacomm in the
Amiga hierarchy reorganization partially with malice aforethought to
make up for the lack of a group anywhere on the net focusing on data
compression, since I tried to get such a discussion rolling this past
summer at the time of the great LZ compression patent ballyhoo with only
a little, short term success.

I'm utterly convinced that current reverseable, general purpose
compression technology is nowhere close to the limits of efficient
compression, just because the results on image data are so far below
potential. It may be that useful research work can be done in this
discipline over the net, but that remains an open question.

Kent, the man from xanth.
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