grenley@nsc.nsc.com (George Grenley) (10/19/88)
Oh Boy! Somebody's interested in the series 32000! In article <2582@sultra.UUCP> dtynan@sultra.UUCP (Der Tynan) writes: >OK, I'm interested in the 32K series from National. Great! >So where do I turn for >more information? That's right. comp.sys.nsc.32k. And what do I find? >Nada! Zip! The occasional article that seems to slip by. Doesn't anyone >out there use this thing? We'd rather not talk about the number of users we have, Der. Or maybe it's that 32000 users don't use the net... >Come on, some comments. How does it compare to >the Motorola lineup. What are people doing with it. How do they like it. >You know, USENET stuff!! For one thing, the GNU C compiler has machine >definitions for the 32K, but GAS doesn't. Is anyone working on this?? >What about bugs in the ucode? I see that GCC refers to some bugs, in the >way that it generates code. Anyone got experience with this? What complete >systems are available out there? How much are they? Look, if this doesn't >start the ball rolling, I'll have to start misquoting people, and posting >incorrect data, just to get you 32k'ers to post something. > - Der >Reply: dtynan@sultra.UUCP (Der Tynan @ Tynan Computers) > {mips,pyramid}!sultra!dtynan There really isn't any comparison to the Mot architecture. (Note to MBA students - this is proof that the best architecture does not $$$$ make.) Regarding GNU C, we will be very happy to see the GNU compiler run under DOS (boo hiss). Yes, I know it is not easy/impossible, but.... Regarding bugs; yes, we got 'em. How many you want? Regarding complete systems, there are several options (given in rough order of increasing cost - sorry if I have missed any!) 1. Opus Systems, Cupertino, CA - 32032, 32332, 32532 based Unix V.3 add in cards for IBM PCs. I happen to have one, it is a good product. 2. Aeon, Boulder, CO - also makes add-in cards for PCs - I believe their 532 card is the fastest that is available. (Based on Mfr's claims - I haven't benckmarked them) 3. Heurikon, Madison, WI (608-251-8715) - they make VME based 532 cards and offer fulll systems as well. They also have Sun III resident cross tools for 32K. 4. Encore, and Sequent - these aren't exactly laptop systems (8-) but they are 32K - see their respective newsgroups (but remember - Sequent's Symmetry system is a segmented tool of the devil!) 5. Siemens makes a bunch of different 32K boxes which they sell in Europe. 6. In Australia, try Osiris. I read this group several times a week, so, to the extent I can answer questions, I will. Lastly, there was a posting regard a 32K kit with incomplete ROM set. I suggest you contact our TSEC group, by writing National Semi TSEC, bldg 5 2925 Copper Rd. Santa Clara, CA 95051 attn: Mike Guivi Good luck. The old designer kits were thrown together somewhat haphazardly and have more that a few (mostly undiscovered) bugs... Regards, George Grenley disclaimer: I work for NSC. My word is LAW! 8-)