johnw@astroatc.UUCP (John F. Wardale) (10/22/88)
In article <7189@nsc.nsc.com> rfg@nsc.nsc.com.UUCP (Ron Guilmette) writes: >In article <2582@sultra.UUCP> dtynan@sultra.UUCP (Der Tynan) writes: >>How does it compare to the Motorola lineup. >Can you say "F-15 vs. a hot air balloon"? Well, I guess I'm biased ;-) Ok, it the NSC chips are "an F-15" the the 68xxx part gotta be at least "a prop-jet" ... The Intel lineup are "bi-planes" ... Maybe my TI-58 would be "a hot air balloon" Any benchmark comparisons between the 88000 and the newest '532 ?? -- John Wardale ... {seismo | harvard | ihnp4} ! {uwvax | cs.wisc.edu} ! astroatc!johnw To err is human, to really foul up world news requires the net!
mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) (10/23/88)
In article <1239@astroatc.UUCP> johnw@astroatc.UUCP (John F. Wardale) writes: >In article <7189@nsc.nsc.com> rfg@nsc.nsc.com.UUCP (Ron Guilmette) writes: >>In article <2582@sultra.UUCP> dtynan@sultra.UUCP (Der Tynan) writes: >>>How does it compare to the Motorola lineup. >>Can you say "F-15 vs. a hot air balloon"? Well, I guess I'm biased ;-) > >Ok, it the NSC chips are "an F-15" the the 68xxx part gotta be >at least "a prop-jet" ... The Intel lineup are "bi-planes" >... Maybe my TI-58 would be "a hot air balloon" > >Any benchmark comparisons between the 88000 and the newest '532 ?? 34K Dhrystones is the published number for the 88K, although that uses an unspecified cache size [almost irrelevant, since it fits in small caches], clock rate [relevant; we think this number is what 25MHz parts would be, but maybe they're for a well-tuned 20MHz one], and memory system [somewhat important, although not very, with a writeback cache]. As I recall, 532s are about half that, although I could be wrong, as I don't track them closely. Just to extend the analogy, note that if 532's are F-15s, there are a number of people flying in Lockheed Blackirds [MIPS R3000s], already [20 VUPS @ 25MHz, 42K Dhrystones.] -- -john mashey DISCLAIMER: <generic disclaimer, I speak for me only, etc> UUCP: {ames,decwrl,prls,pyramid}!mips!mash OR mash@mips.com DDD: 408-991-0253 or 408-720-1700, x253 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086
operator@puff.cs.wisc.edu (Operator) (10/25/88)
In article <6438@winchester.mips.COM> mash@winchester.UUCP (John Mashey) writes: >Just to extend the analogy, note that if 532's are F-15s, there are >a number of people flying in Lockheed Blackirds [MIPS R3000s], already >[20 VUPS @ 25MHz, 42K Dhrystones.] lets see... so far we got... TI-58 calc == hot air baloon mot '030 == prop plane nsc '532 == F-15 mips R3000 == Lockheed Blackbird does this mean that the soon to be announced ecl mips chips, from Bit, lets call it the R9000, should fit in at: mips R9000 == Unreleased Lockheed Spy Plane on further inspection it's obvious that the analogies stated above need adjustment, I suggest.. TI-58 calc <10 drystones at ??Mhz == hot air baloon, 10 Mph mot '030 8k drystones at 25Mhz** == P-51 Mustang, Mach .6 nsc '532 15k drystones at 25Mhz** == Phantom F-4, Mach 1.6+ fuji sparc 25K drystones at 25Mhz** == F-16, Mach 2+ moto 88000 34K drystones at 25Mhz** == F-15, Mach 2+ (bigger load) mips R3000 42K drystones at 25Mhz == Lockheed Blackbird, Mach 3+ mips R9000 135K drystones at 80Mhz*** == Lockheed Spy Plane, Mach 6+ *** ** == estimate +-15% *** == estimate +-20%, only rumoured to exist, wink, wink.
mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) (10/25/88)
In article <1897@puff.cs.wisc.edu> operator@puff.WISC.EDU (Operator) writes: .... >does this mean that the soon to be announced ecl mips chips, from Bit, lets >call it the R9000, should fit in at: > > mips R9000 == Unreleased Lockheed Spy Plane > >on further inspection it's obvious that the analogies stated above need >adjustment, I suggest.. > > TI-58 calc <10 drystones at ??Mhz == hot air baloon, 10 Mph > mot '030 8k drystones at 25Mhz** == P-51 Mustang, Mach .6 > nsc '532 15k drystones at 25Mhz** == Phantom F-4, Mach 1.6+ > fuji sparc 25K drystones at 25Mhz** == F-16, Mach 2+ > moto 88000 34K drystones at 25Mhz** == F-15, Mach 2+ (bigger load) > mips R3000 42K drystones at 25Mhz == Lockheed Blackbird, Mach 3+ > mips R9000 135K drystones at 80Mhz*** == Lockheed Spy Plane, Mach 6+ *** Well, everybody knows we're doing this, but they aren't called R9000s; and they don't quite do 135K Dhrys; they also won't be announced soon either, so the analogy is not too bad. They will be fast, but not fast enough to be called a starship Enterprise... -- -john mashey DISCLAIMER: <generic disclaimer, I speak for me only, etc> UUCP: {ames,decwrl,prls,pyramid}!mips!mash OR mash@mips.com DDD: 408-991-0253 or 408-720-1700, x253 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086