[comp.sys.nsc.32k] Questions about 32?32 projects, fortran and GNU

chcu275@ut-emx.UUCP (Noel Bell) (01/18/89)

   Regarding the past discussions of developing a hobby-type or kit
   computer based on an NSC chip set:

     1. What are the various camps ( power, price, etc ) working
        on these days?  ( I lean towards power; >= 80386 )

     2. Has the possibility of using the future GNU kernel increased?
        What is a popular wag ( wild a** guess ) for the date of
        availability of the GNU kernel?

     3. What are the possibilities of getting a decent fortran 
        compiler to run on a NSC kit that might result from work
        discussed in this newsgroup?  Will there be a GNU f77?

   I read the previous discussions with great interest; however, being
   a relatively worthless chemical engineer ( can't make pcbs or
   semiconductors ), I kept my distance.  I would be very interested
   in obtaining an NSC 32k system but while I do like to program in C, 
   I also want to have a fortran compiler for any system I purchase.  

   Within the next few months I will be in a position to participate
   in the development of a system by buying a computer and at least
   providing 1 dumb user to test software and hardware.  Don't ask
   me to write a fortran compiler if you want one that works sometime
   in the next 10 years.

   Sorry for rambling.  Thanks in advance for any replies or postings.

   P.S. I have used an Encore ( NSC 32332 ) for some numerical work.
        It's not bad even without floating point hardware but faster
        is better.

   Noel Bell
   Department of Chemical Engineering
   U of Texas at Austin
   chcu275@emx.cc.utexas.edu

bdale@hp-col.HP.COM (Bdale Garbee) (01/20/89)

>     1. What are the various camps ( power, price, etc ) working
>        on these days?  ( I lean towards power; >= 80386 )

I'm working with a small group of friends on a flat-out performance
implementation of a 32532 single-board, probably with NuBus for expansion.
Most relevent I/O onboard, a separate board for workstation-class graphics.

>     2. Has the possibility of using the future GNU kernel increased?
>        What is a popular wag ( wild a** guess ) for the date of
>        availability of the GNU kernel?

The current intention is to port BSD unix, or perhaps Mach, and run with GCC
and mostly GNU utilities.  If/when a kernel becomes available, it would then
not be hard to use.

>     3. What are the possibilities of getting a decent fortran 
>        compiler to run on a NSC kit that might result from work
>        discussed in this newsgroup?  Will there be a GNU f77?

I have no idea.  I'm standardizing on the GCC/G++ compilers for the system,
but have no interest in Fortran.

>   Within the next few months I will be in a position to participate
>   in the development of a system by buying a computer and at least
>   providing 1 dumb user to test software and hardware.  

I hope to have a proto up some time this spring, and to publish the design
and maybe do a PCB run this summer.  Wild-ass scheduling at it's best!

>        It's not bad even without floating point hardware but faster
>        is better.

Faster == Better.

Bdale Garbee, N3EUA