pgf@hou5f.UUCP (06/17/83)
I need help getting mail to the [Ss]hasta machine at Stanford.
When I use ...!ucbvax!shasta!mitchell, the machine "shasta" is
unknown to ucbvax. If I try ...!ucbvax!Shasta!mitchell, it gets
translated to lowercase, and the results are the same. I have
also tried ucbvax!mitchell@Shasta, which was translated to lower
case somewhere, with the following results:
From houxi!floyd!ucbvax!MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jun 17 03:49:55 1983
Date: 16 Jun 83 16:36:47 EDT (Thu)
Received: by UCBVAX.ARPA (3.346/3.33)
id AA01900; 16 Jun 83 16:36:47 PDT (Thu)
Date: 13 Jun 83 11:01:38 EDT (Mon)
From: ucbvax!MAILER-DAEMON (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3 days
Message-Id: <8306162336.AA01900@UCBVAX.ARPA>
To: floyd!houxi!hou5f!pgf
----- Transcript of session follows -----
mitchell@shasta... Connecting to shasta.tcp...
mitchell@shasta... Deferred: Connection timed out
mitchell@shasta... Cannot send message for 3 days
----- Unsent message follows -----
.
.
.
etc.
Can anyone tell me how to get mail to someone on Shasta? (It must be
possible, he got mail to me!)
Paul Fox, ABI Holmdel NJ (201)834-2064
houx?!hou5f!pgfmark@cbosgd.UUCP (06/24/83)
Shasta is an interesting case. The management there insists that their right to their upper case "S" is more important than being able to exchange mail with other sites. This is complicated by the lower case tradition on UUCP and a misfeature of 4.1BSD's delivermail program which translates upper case to lower case. In your case, the translation from Shasta to shasta happens because you routed your mail through a 4.1BSD machine (floyd). Try routing through ihnp4, for example. I also think (but am not sure) that Shasta can be accessed from the ARPANET with a syntax such as user%Shasta@Sumex.ARPA using Sumex as a gateway and % as a fake @ sign. I am unsure of the case sensitive situation here - RFC 822 claims it shouldn't matter in host names. Other machines have links to shasta (lower case) - eagle comes to mind.