lazear@MITRE-GATEWAY.ARPA.UUCP (02/20/87)
What terminal type do Chameleon users set themselves to when calling
a Unix system? I haven't been able to find a combination that works
with the VI screen editor (cursor motion, line inserts, etc).
Chameleon doesn't react much at all to the VT52 termcap, with ADM3A
I have to set even parity within Chameleon, but there still is no
cursor movement. I don't know what the IBM flavor is that is supported
in Chameleon. (By the way, the issue arises because I have always
used ED as my editor when dialing in, but decided to use VI now).
Any help is appreciated! (My version of Chameleon is 4.0).
Walt
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walt, i usually use chameleon only when i need kermit when i dial in to this Unix system... otherwise, i use vt10^2 (vt ten squared) terminal emualtor (vt100) which works very well with vi... it is pd, i got it off of a local bbs... (brad banko) (...!decvax!cwruecmp!ncoast!btb) -- usenet: .....!decvax!cwruecmp!bammi jwahar r. bammi csnet: bammi@case arpa: bammi%case@csnet-relay compuServe: 71515,155
wrd@tekigm2.UUCP (02/22/87)
In article <8702202045.AA05232@gateway.mitre.org>, lazear@MITRE-GATEWAY.ARPA (Walt Lazear) writes: > > What terminal type do Chameleon users set themselves to when calling > a Unix system? I haven't been able to find a combination that works > with the VI screen editor (cursor motion, line inserts, etc). > Chameleon doesn't react much at all to the VT52 termcap, with ADM3A > I have to set even parity within Chameleon, but there still is no > cursor movement. > I use the VT52XL emulation all the time with an Atari 130XE/Hayes compatible modem and an 850 interface. Vi works fine, everything that you mention works as if I were on any other terminal. I use the following setup: Terminal: VT52-XL Back space: CTRL-H Parity: off Duplex: full Flow control: ^S/^Q With this, I get full cursor motion, line insertion/deletion, character insertion/deletion. I have seen similar problems to yours before, it usually is because either parity is on even or odd or flow control is not properly set up. I have also used an 800XL with the above setup and have had the same results. Have also used a 1030 Atari modem at 300 baud, is slow as all get out, but also works. My Hayes compatible is a U.S. Robiotics Courier which I run at 1200 baud, that I borrow from work. When you are using Chameleon and an Atari computer, you can get { and } by using CNTRL-; and CNTRL-< (^; and ^<). H is your left arrow, J is down arrow, K is up arrow, L is right arrow. Use i, r, R, a, etc. commands for insertion, replacement, Replacement, appending, etc. just as if you were at any normal terminal. --Bill-- tektronix!tekigm2!wrd
dlink@udenva.UUCP (02/23/87)
In article <1887@cwruecmp.UUCP> bammi@cwruecmp.UUCP (Jwahar R. Bammi) writes: >walt, > i usually use chameleon only when i need kermit when i dial in >to this Unix system... otherwise, i use vt10^2 (vt ten squared) terminal >emualtor (vt100) which works very well with vi... it is pd, i got it off >of a local bbs... >-- >usenet: .....!decvax!cwruecmp!bammi jwahar r. bammi >csnet: bammi@case >arpa: bammi%case@csnet-relay >compuServe: 71515,155 Would you be willing to post it to this network? I know that I would like to try this program out and perhaps there are others who would as well. Thanks! -- ... {hplabs,seismo}!hao---\ ... ucbvax!nbires----------> !udenva!dlink ... {boulder, cisden}-----/
jhs@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA.UUCP (02/24/87)
Bill: You should consider getting one of the Avatex 1200 modems. For under $80 you could own your own modem, or under $120 if you want a built-in speaker and S-register commands. The $80 one does everything I have needed so far. -John Sangster / jhs@mitre-bedford.arpa
appelbau@topaz.UUCP (02/24/87)
In article <8702202045.AA05232@gateway.mitre.org>, lazear@MITRE-GATEWAY.ARPA (Walt Lazear) writes: > > What terminal type do Chameleon users set themselves to when calling > a Unix system? I haven't been able to find a combination that works > with the VI screen editor (cursor motion, line inserts, etc). > Chameleon doesn't react much at all to the VT52 termcap, with ADM3A > I have to set even parity within Chameleon, but there still is no > cursor movement. I don't know what the IBM flavor is that is supported > in Chameleon. (By the way, the issue arises because I have always > used ED as my editor when dialing in, but decided to use VI now). > Any help is appreciated! (My version of Chameleon is 4.0). I set my term type to ATARI using the following .termcap 'atari|atari|Chameleon VT-52xl:so=\EF:se=\EG:al=\EN:dl=\EO:im:em:ic=\EL:dm:ed:dc=\EM:bs:cd=\EJ:ce=\EK:cl=\EH\EJ:cm=\EY%+ %+ :co#80:li#24:nd=\EC:pt:sr=\EI:up=\EA:ku=\EA:kd=\EB:kr=\EC:kl=\ED:'; Also place the following lines in your .login or .profile: echo -n "Terminal type: " set term = $< if ($term == "atari") setenv TERMCAP ~/.termcap endif setenv TERM $term Set Chameleon to: term type:VT-52XL Backspace:rubout Parity:None Flow:^S/^Q Marc -- Marc L. Appelbaum "Insanity is just a state of mind" Arpa: marc@aim.rutgers.edu Uucp:rutgers!ru-blue!appelbaum
wrd@tekigm2.tek.com.UUCP (02/24/87)
Have considered getting an Avatex modem, but since I can borrow the US Robiotics indefinitely have not felt the need. Will probably get around doing it eventually. Right now, my $ are going to my first hobby -- model railroading. Which brings me to a question: do you happen to know any model railroaders who are also good Atari programmers (in any langauage, but preferrably BASIC XE)? Am trying to get a program converted from TRS-80 BASIC for several years and have not been able to get it to work. Would like to have someone of like interests willing to help write a program to do the same thing from scratch. Essentially it is a program to setup waybills and generate traffic for prototype operation of a model railroad layout. Requires a large data base for all industries, cars, commodities, etc. and thus would be ideal to utilize the 130XE extra memory (or better yet a 256K upgrade). The NMRA (National Model Railroad Association) does have a computer SIG, however, most that I have been able to discern is that they are IBM/TRS80/Commodore programmers -- Atari and model railroading seem to have not come together. Why, I do not know, I think we have as much capabilities as anything short of the IBM's and since I use an IBM XT at work, I often wonder about that. I still maintain that there are a lot of things that my Atari 8bitters can do or are set up to do, that I have to get additional boards, set dip switches, etc. on the damn IBM to get the same capability. Still, being able to boothe 130XE, suspect that you can not set up the hard disk to AUTORUN.SYS, however. --Bill-- (Would also be nice if the 8 bitters could "AUTOEXEC.BAT" -- .BAT files are good IBM invention. I suspect that if I was more getting skilled, I could probably do the same thing with the AUTORUN.SYS file.)
dan@sdcrdcf.UUCP (02/28/87)
In article <8702232327.AA10894@mitre-bedford.ARPA> jhs@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA writes: >Bill: > >You should consider getting one of the Avatex 1200 modems. For under $80 >you could own your own modem, or under $120 if you want a built-in speaker and >S-register commands. The $80 one does everything I have needed so far. > >-John Sangster / jhs@mitre-bedford.arpa If I have followed this correctly, this Avatex 1200 modem can be used to access vax unix from an Atari 130x. If not which modem should I get. Also, will I need a terminal emulator? I am new to PC's and don't have a clue. Please help!! Thanks, Dan Boskovich
appelbau@topaz.UUCP (03/04/87)
In article <4226@sdcrdcf.UUCP>, dan@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Dan Boskovich) writes: > If I have followed this correctly, this Avatex 1200 modem can be used > to access vax unix from an Atari 130x. If not which modem should I get. > Also, will I need a terminal emulator? I am new to PC's and don't > have a clue. Please help!! > > Thanks, > > Dan Boskovich Yes, you'll need a terminal emulator in order to use an editor. All the modem does is send signals between two computers, it does not perform any terminal emulation. I mainly use Chameleon (I think I spelled it right) for working on mainframes. It is available from ANTIC for $19.95. It also includes a .termcap for use with the vt-52xl's extended codes. I've been using Chameloen for about 4 months, and I've been extermly satisfied with its emulation and file transfers. -- Marc L. Appelbaum "Insanity is just a state of mind" Arpa: marc@aim.rutgers.edu Uucp:rutgers!ru-blue!appelbaum GEnie:M.APPELBAUM