[comp.sys.atari.8bit] Info atari instructions.

ravi@mcnc.org (Ravi Subrahmanyan) (12/25/87)

This message contains the latest info-atari instructions to
subscribers.  Please go through it (even seasoned users!) and retain
for future reference.  Of special interest to BITNET users (and
interent users with access to bitnet) is a section on accessing the 
16-bit program libraries at the Univ of Houston.

						The info-atari moderators.
        
        
        
        
        
                          Welcome To Info-Atari.
        
        
        
        1.  Sending Messages
        
             You may send messages to all "subscribers" by  address-
        ing it to
        
                       info-atari8@score.stanford.edu
        
        and/or
        
                      info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
        
             Administrative messages should be sent to
        
                         info-atari{8,16}-request.
        
        Please do NOT send general messages to this  address.   Your
        moderators get enough mail as it is!
        
        2.  Ground Rules
        
             All messages should be in good taste.  Commercial  mes-
        sages and advertisements are not permitted. When answering a
        question,  please  consider  carefully  whether  the  answer
        should go to the whole list, or just to the person who asked
        the question.
        
             The following ground rules should make the use of  this
        (or of any other) mailing list much easier:
        
        *    never send a message that a totally irrelevant  to  the
             mailing  list's  purpose to a mailing list.  This espe-
             cially  includes  any  expressions  of  irritation   at
             another list member.
        
        *    never forward a message that is totally  irrelevant  to
             the mailing list's purpose to a mailing list.
        
        *    when replying to a message on  a  mailing  list,  reply
             only  to  the sender of the message unless the reply is
             of interest to the entire mailing list.
        
        *    avoid inserting the  message  being  replied  to  in  a
             reply, especially in a message going to a mailing list.
             The context of the reply should be  clear  from  *your*
             reply  and  from various mailer functionalities such as
             Message-ID.
        
        *    when replying to an earlier  reply  that  violates  the
             previous  rule, ABSOLUTELY DO NOT make matters worse by
             adding your own violation.
        
        
        
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        3.  Archives
        
             Archives are kept in several places in  formats  avail-
        able  to  everyone.   As  described  below,  if  you  are on
        ARPANET/DDN you will probably find  it  more  convenient  to
        retrieve  files  from the archive on radc-softvax.arpa using
        FTP.  If you are not on ARPANET/DDN, or are  unable  to  use
        FTP,  you  will be able to retrieve files from archives dis-
        tributed over several Bitnet hosts by sending  mail  (notes)
        to a program called LISTSERV.
        
        3.1.  Archives on radc-softvax.arpa
        
             Files from radc-softvax.arpa are available by FTP.  FTP
        will  work only for hosts directly connected to ARPANET/DDN.
        Please obtain local documentation and  advice  for  the  FTP
        user  programming running on your host. There are two direc-
        tories under the anonymous account. One for atari8  and  one
        for atari16.
        
             FTP   to    radc-softvax    using    login:guest    and
        password:guest. To get the current list of available atari16
        files do a 'get atari16/files.doc'. All of the atari16 files
        are  stored  in  the  atari16  subdirectory. If you need any
        other information, contact Marc Poulin.
        
             The archive is maintained by  Rodney  Peck  (Peck@radc-
        multics.arpa)  and  Marc Poulin (Poulin@radc-multics.arpa or
        Archives@radc-softvax.arpa).
        
        3.2.  LISTSERV
        
             LISTSERV provides access to files for everyone who  can
        send  mail,  independent  of their location.  Note, however,
        that intermediate notes have been known to refuse to  handle
        long  messages  or  have  damaged them in transit.  LISTSERV
        provides a number of features which you can access by  send-
        ing  mail  (note)  to LISTSERV.  Only the barest minimum are
        described herein. On Bitnet messages should be sent to  your
        nearest  LISTSERV  (the one from which you receive the info-
        atari digests).  (If your  address  is  not  on  Bitnet,  an
        address  for  file servers is given below.) All mail sent to
        LISTSERV contains command lines.  LISTSERV will  respond  by
        return  mail.   No  subject  is necessary in such mail.  For
        more information send the command
        
                                   INFO
        
        
        3.2.1.  List Names
        
             The list_name  for  16-bit  Ataris  is  INFO-A16.   The
        list_name for 8-bit Ataris is INFO-A8.  These list names are
        used by Bitnet addressees for subscribing and  unsubscribing
        
        
        
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        and  by  everyone for obtaining back copies of news digests.
        The list_names for  programs  stored  in  the  archives  are
        PROG-A16 and PROG-A8.
        
        3.2.2.  (Un)Subscribing
        
             If you are on Bitnet you may  add  or  remove  yourself
        from  the  distribution  list.  It would greatly convenience
        the moderators if you would do so when you no longer wish to
        receive digests.
        
             The command to join the list is
        
                       SUBSCRIBE list_name User_name
        
        The command to remove yourself from the list is
        
                           UNSUBSCRIBE list_name
        
        
             It would be most convenient if users took care of their
        own  subscribing  and  unsubscribing,  but messages to INFO-
        ATARI-REQUEST{8,16}@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU   will    still    be
        accepted.
        
        3.2.3.  Accessing Program & Digest Archives
        
             All digests are in the archives. There  is  a  separate
        program  library.  You can obtain copies of files from LIST-
        SERV by sending a message in the specified format.
        
             If you are on ARPAnet (or gatewayed to it),  your  mail
        concerning 16-bit Atari information should be addressed to
        
                  LISTSERV%CANADA01.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
        
        Mail concerning 8-bit Atari information should be  addressed
        to
        
                   LISTSERV%TCSVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
        
             To obtain a list of files in the file server, the  com-
        mand is
        
                              INDEX list_name
        
        The command to obtain a specific file is
        
                          GET list_name file_name
        
        for example,
        
                           GET INFO-A16 87-00076
        
        
        
        
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        If you want to learn more, send the message
        
                                    HELP
        
             The moderator of the 8-bit program library is  John  R.
        Dunning.   This  library  is  not yet available for use, and
        further information will be posted to both newsgroups as  it
        becomes available.
        
        
        3.2.4.  LISTSERV Moderators
        
             The person  to  contact  if  you  are  having  problems
        (un)subscribing  is  Harry  Williams  (harry@marist.bitnet).
        The  moderator  of  the  16-bit  digest  archives  is  Peter
        Jasper-Fayer (sofpjf@uoguelph.bitnet).  The moderator of the
        16-bit    program    archives     is     Richard     Werezak
        (carson@mcmaster.bitnet).    The   moderator  of  the  8-bit
        archives is John Voigt (sysbjav@tcsvm.bitnet).  The  modera-
        tor  of  the  8-bit  program  archives  is  Arnold  de  Leon
        (adeleon@hmcvax.bitnet).
        
        3.2.5.  Information Concerning 16-bit Archive Organization
        
             The digests are numbered sequentially as they come  in.
        Sometimes  the files arrive here out of order, or with miss-
        ing ones, or with extra ones or with mail from BITNET  users
        requesting information.  Often the moderator has to logon to
        LISTSERV and re-name the files according to  the  "Subject:"
        line  within  it.  Those "Subject:" lines are what end up in
        the indexes (in both "-A16" lists)
        
             The program files are largely extracts from the digests
        (INFO-A16).   As far as possible, they are numbered the same
        as the digests they came from.  Other programs were inserted
        somewhere  in  the  list.   The  numbers of these "inserted"
        files were selected so that they would appear in  the  index
        at about the correct CHRONOLOGICAL sequence.  If no programs
        were included in the  digests,  and  no  contributions  were
        received,  then  those spaces in the index numbers were left
        blank.
        
        3.2.6.  Supplemental information for BITNET users
        
             Bitnet sites normally cannot make a  connection  to  an
        internet  site (such as Score) and FTP files over, so you do
        not have direct access to the archives on  radc-softvax.arpa
        from  your  BITNET site. However, BITNET has some sites with
        all the good stuff, so you can get  files  from  there.  The
        LISTSERV's at CANADA01 and FINHUTC have old digests, and the
        ATARINET server at Univ of Houston has most of the best pro-
        grams.  You can get to the LISTSERVs by saying
        
                TELL LISTSERV AT FINHUTC GET ATARI FILELIST
        
        
        
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        or
        
                TELL LISTSERV AT CANADA01 GET ATARI FILELIST
        
             to get a list of files.  To get a specific file if  you
        know it's name, you can say
        
           TELL LISTSERV AT <HOSTNAME> GET <FILENAME> <FILETYPE>
        
             To get stuff from the Univ of Houston server,  you  can
        say
        
                   TELL UH-INFO AT UHUPVM1 ATARINET HELP
        
        or
        
                   TELL UH-INFO AT UHUPVM1 ATARINET INDEX
        
             for further instructions.   After  you  know  a  file's
        name, you can get it by saying
        
        TELL UH-INFO AT UHUPVM1 ATARINET SEND <FILENAME> <FILETYPE>
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
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