bobm@hpfcmr.HP.COM (Bob Montgomery) (04/09/88)
Ok, let's talk about games. I have lots of games and I want more. And
some of those new XE games look pretty good. But I have a 48K 800. Will
they work, he wonders?
I wish Atari would say but they only mention XE and XL systems on the
boxes.
Here's what I've heard:
Rumor 1: "None of the blue box games will play on old Ataris." --
Kaybee Toys salesperson.
Rumor 2: "Everyone we've tried has worked except for 'One on One'".
-- B&C ComputerVision salesperson.
Here's what I know:
XE Cartridge 800/48K 400/16K
BattleZone Yes No
Rescue on Fractalus! Yes No
Flight Simulator II No No
Anyone know or care?
Bob Montgomeryc60b-at@buddy.Berkeley.EDU (John Kawakami -0^0-) (04/13/88)
In article <1010003@hpfcmr.HP.COM> bobm@hpfcmr.HP.COM (Bob Montgomery) writes: > >Ok, let's talk about games. I have lots of games and I want more. And >some of those new XE games look pretty good. But I have a 48K 800. Will >they work, he wonders? > >I wish Atari would say but they only mention XE and XL systems on the >boxes. Does anyone know what the diference is between the xe/xk/xegs carts and the older carts is. Do the new carts 'load' themselves before executing; do the bankswitch? whats going on? John Kawakami > c60b-at@buddy.berkeley.edu These boots are made for posing < -O~O- and that's just what they'll do > )o(
njd@ihlpm.ATT.COM (DiMasi) (04/13/88)
> Bob Montgomery writes: > > Ok, let's talk about games. I have lots of games and I want more. And > some of those new XE games look pretty good. But I have a 48K 800. Will > they work, he wonders? > ...... > Anyone know or care? I don't know about any of the newly-released-on-cartridge (or new, and on cartridge) games in particular. I do care, because I feel that owners of the "old" (400/800) Atari 8-bit computers should not be excluded arbitrarily. Certainly, if the game requires 64K, it's not going to run on a (stock) 400/800. If the program depends on specific changes to the OS (rev. B?) in the XLs/XEs, it won't run on a 400/800. But would Atari release a game that has such dependencies? If your dealer(s) will let you try out the games in the store, why not just bring in your 800, hook it up (no disk since these are cart. games), and try the games? I've done this sort of thing with my first disk drive when a program would not load. Nick DiMasi Uni'q Digital Technologies (Fox Valley Software subsidiary; ^ working as a contractor at AT&T Bell Labs in Naperville, IL) ( | this is an accent mark, supposed to replace the dot over the 'i')
rjung@castor.usc.edu (Robert Jung) (04/13/88)
In article <1010003@hpfcmr.HP.COM> bobm@hpfcmr.HP.COM (Bob Montgomery) writes: > >Ok, let's talk about games. I have lots of games and I want more. And >some of those new XE games look pretty good. But I have a 48K 800. Will >they work, he wonders? > > >Here's what I know: > > XE Cartridge 800/48K 400/16K > > BattleZone Yes No > Rescue on Fractalus! Yes No > Flight Simulator II No No > >Anyone know or care? Of course! It's about Atari, I care! I have it STRAIGHT from two horses' mouthes (and they both sell Atari software/hardware, so it's not gossiping) that the XE Game System cartridges will work with ALL Ataris with 48K. I don't know why you'd had problems with Flight Simulator II, but apparently *all* of them will work on the 800! This is terrific news, and is (hopefully) a sign that somebody up at Sunnyvale is really on the ball. --R.J. B-) P.S. I'd love to get Flight Simulator II alone, but right now it only comes with the XE Game System... ______________________________________________________________________________ Bitnet: rjung@castor.usc.edu "Who needs an Amiga?" = == = = == = Power WithOUT the Price = == = ===== == ===== Just because it's 8-bits doesn't make it obsolete. ==== == ====
gdtltr@vax1.acs.udel.EDU (Gary D Duzan) (04/13/88)
I have a further, though simpler question. Are the
new el-humungo carts. the kind that requires the two little
plastic tabs on the computer to open the cart. or is the slot
exposed? I have the ICD MIO 130XE adapter which doesn't have
the plastic tabs. While this just means that I have to use a
paper clip to open the case every time I use an Atari brand
cart., I would rather not go through the trouble.
Gary Duzan
Time Lord
Third Regeneration
Atari Enthusiast Extremekimes@ihlpe.ATT.COM (Kit Kimes) (04/14/88)
In article <700@nunki.usc.edu>, rjung@castor.usc.edu (Robert Jung) writes: > In article <1010003@hpfcmr.HP.COM> bobm@hpfcmr.HP.COM (Bob Montgomery) writes: > > > >Ok, let's talk about games. I have lots of games and I want more. And > >some of those new XE games look pretty good. But I have a 48K 800. Will > >they work, he wonders? > > > I have it STRAIGHT from two horses' mouthes (and they both sell Atari > software/hardware, so it's not gossiping) that the XE Game System cartridges > will work with ALL Ataris with 48K. I don't know why you'd had problems with > Flight Simulator II, but apparently *all* of them will work on the 800! > This is news to me. Have they actually tried them? The reason I ask is because Atari themselves (in the person of Neil Harris) said that many of the new cartridges will not work in the older machines specifically because they download 64K of information. After all, they are supposed to be for the XE Game System which has 64K of RAM. Flight Simulator II has always been used as an example of one of the cartridges that won't work unless you have a 64K machine. I am curious also, because I would like to get FS II when it is available. Kit Kimes AT&T--Information Systems Labs ...ihnp4!ihlpe!kimes
swklassen@trillium.waterloo.edu (Steven W. Klassen) (04/15/88)
In article <1016@udccvax1.acs.udel.EDU> gdtltr@vax1.acs.udel.EDU (Gary D Duzan) writes: > > I have a further, though simpler question. Are the >new el-humungo carts. the kind that requires the two little >plastic tabs on the computer to open the cart. or is the slot >exposed? I have the ICD MIO 130XE adapter which doesn't have >the plastic tabs. While this just means that I have to use a >paper clip to open the case every time I use an Atari brand >cart., I would rather not go through the trouble. > Why not just take the cartridge apart and remove the bottom part of the cartridge leaving the case open? I wouldn't think that it would be that hard to do. Steven W. Klassen Computer Science Major University of Waterloo
rjung@sal39.usc.edu (Robert Jung) (04/15/88)
In article <1010003@hpfcmr.HP.COM> bobm@hpfcmr.HP.COM (Bob Montgomery) writes: >> >Ok, let's talk about games. I have lots of games and I want more. And >> >some of those new XE games look pretty good. But I have a 48K 800. Will >> >they work, he wonders? In article <700@nunki.usc.edu>, I wrote >> I have it STRAIGHT from two horses' mouthes (and they both sell Atari >> software/hardware, so it's not gossiping) that the XE Game System cartridges >> will work with ALL Ataris with 48K. I don't know why you'd had problems with >> Flight Simulator II, but apparently *all* of them will work on the 800! In article <2861@ihlpe.ATT.COM> kimes@ihlpe.ATT.COM (Kit Kimes) writes: >This is news to me. Have they actually tried them? The reason I ask is >because Atari themselves (in the person of Neil Harris) said that many of >the new cartridges will not work in the older machines specifically because >they download 64K of information. After all, they are supposed to be for >the XE Game System which has 64K of RAM. That is a true point. However, near as I can tell (or remember -- Direct quoting is not one of my talents B-), the XE Game System cartridges should be able to work on the older 800 machines. I do know that I haven't heard anyone confirm any reports of INcompatability... But like you said, the 64K cartridges may *not* work, because of insufficient RAM. Since I am beginning to have doubts myself on this matter, lemme go check this out again, and get back to you... --R.J., feeling embarrassed B-) P.S. I'd like to get _Flight simulator II_ when it comes out by itself, too. ______________________________________________________________________________ Bitnet: rjung@castor.usc.edu "Who needs an Amiga?" = == = = == = Power WithOUT the Price = == = ===== == ===== Just because it's 8-bits doesn't make it obsolete. ==== == ====