[comp.sys.atari.8bit] AMAC bugs?

SHAFFERJ@BKNLVMS.BITNET ("Jim Shaffer, Jr.") (06/06/88)

A week or so ago, someone mentioned that there are some serious bugs in the
Atari Macro Assembler. Because I've just recently gotten a copy of this, and
don't own MAC-65, could someone please tell me just what these bugs are and
if there are any fixes?

SHAFFERJ@BKNLVMS.BITNET ("Jim Shaffer, Jr.") (06/06/88)

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A week or so ago, someone mentioned that there are some serious bugs in the
Atari Macro Assembler. Because I've just recently gotten a copy of this, and
don't own MAC-65, could someone please tell me just what these bugs are and
if there are any fixes?
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SHAFFERJ@BKNLVMS.BITNET ("Jim Shaffer, Jr.") (06/06/88)

A while ago someone mentioned that there were some serious bugs in the
Atari Macro Assembler. Since I've just started using it, what are these bugs?

SHAFFERJ@BKNLVMS.BITNET ("Jim Shaffer, Jr.") (06/07/88)

A while ago someone mentioned that the Atari Macro Assembler had some serious
bugs. Since I haven't heard of these yet (maybe I haven't used it enough to
find out the hard way), could someone tell me what they are?

gil@limbic.UUCP (Gil Kloepfer Jr.) (06/08/88)

In article <8806061516.AA03720@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> SHAFFERJ@BKNLVMS.BITNET ("Jim Shaffer, Jr.") writes:
|>A while ago someone mentioned that there were some serious bugs in the
|>Atari Macro Assembler. Since I've just started using it, what are these bugs?

Ugh...it has been so long ago that I don't remember them all!!  I'll try to
recap what I can:

	1.  AMAC does NOT work under SpartaDOS.  They do something tricky
	    with the I/O that most programs don't do.

	2.  I've seen symbols get "lost" somewhere when you write large
	    programs.  By lost I mean they get undefined, etc.  Sorry, I
	    can't elaborate further, but I do know I spent many hours
	    pulling my hair out on this one.

	3.  (not a bug) Larger programs get tedious in the edit..assemble..
	    run..boot.. cycle.  You need to load a separate editor, and
	    AMAC itself isn't small.

Unfortunately, these are the major points I can remember.  I started using
MAC-65 and found it was MUCH easier to use than AMAC.  There are a couple
of things missing in MAC-65, but assembly time is reduced TREMENDOUSLY using
MAC-65, it works under SpartaDOS, it has a built-in editor  --  all in all
I found using MAC-65 a pleasure.  I recommend it over AMAC if at all possible.

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kimes@ihlpe.ATT.COM (Kit Kimes) (06/10/88)

In article <1917@alliant.Alliant.COM>, lackey@Alliant.COM (Stan Lackey) writes:
> 
> If&when Atari comes out with an OS that supports the XF551, I shouldn't need
> SpartaDOS anymore and this problem will fix itself.
> 
I think you mean DOS, not OS.  Atari is supposed to be about ready to release
ADOS.  Recent buyers of the XF551 are still getting Atari DOS 2.5 though.

> Speaking about dying and going to heaven...has anyone tried the new cartridge-
> based SpartaDOS?  I understand it is huge, and turns itself on and off to
> give the user more RAM, while providing much more functionality.  What's the
> deal?
> 
The Beta versions of SpartaDOS-X cartridges are just now going out according
to ICD.  If all goes well, they should be available in 2 to 3 months.  I have
a one page sheet that ICD posted to their BBS and I have included it below.
It doesn't say anything about turning inself on and off.


					Kit Kimes  
					AT&T--Information Systems Labs
					...ihnp4!ihlpe!kimes

=============================================================================

                                SpartaDOS X

Just what your 8-bit has been waiting for...a cartridge based DOS which
increases the power of your computer and includes an abundance of features
such as automatic Ultra Speed I/O with the Indus GT, US Doubler, and High Speed
on the new Atari XF551.  SpartaDOS X is a fantastic new version of its disk
based cousin.

Even though SpartaDOS X is a 64K cartridge, it requires no memory from your
computer.  You may piggyback another cartridge on top of the SpartaDOS X
cartridge and operate just as if you had booted from disk -- except much, much
faster.  Here are just a few of the advanced features found in this cartridge
based DOS.

        High Speed drive access with US Doubler, Atari XF551, and Indus GT
            drives.
        New improved menu program.  Shows entire directory tree and performs
            multi-file operations.
        Supports up to 1 meg of internal memory as a RAMDISK.
        The Lowest MEMLO of any DOS!
        Powerful file loader supports relocatable files and symbol linking.
        All new command processor includes parameter passing on batch files,
            user definable prompt, and search file paths.
        Commands now allow MS-DOS syntax!
        The most commonly used commands are built right into the cartridge!
        Atari 800 support with Axlon compatible upgrades.
        Built in, all new formatter pops in with an XIO#254.

SpartaDOS X runs on an 800XL, 1200XL, 600XL (with expanded memory), 65XE, 130XE
800XE, the XE Game System, the old 800 with Axlon compatible RAM upgrade.

NOTE: SpartaDOS X will become available in June 1988. ($79.95 MSRP)

[not true, more like September 1988 - kk]