euloth@dalcsug.UUCP (Glenn Euloth) (10/18/88)
I remember being on the Dateline BBS in New York and hearing some stuff there about a couple of Graphics Environments for the 8 bit systems. Has there been anything the net has to offer on this type of program? The two programs they were discussing were called GOE and Diamond. I had missed some of the messages and was jumping in on it. Haven't been there for a while but I was thinking that the net might have some insights to offer. The main reason I am asking is seeing the stuff in the Zmag #124 about the Turbo-816 product from Dataque. This is another product that seems to have escaped the notice of the netland. Does anyone know much about this item either? Eagerly awaiting responses (Would prefer posts rather than mail so ALL can hear about these) -- ******************************************************************************* * euloth@dalcsug.uucp || Disclaimer: All opinions are my own unless other- * * /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ || wise noted. * ****AKA: Atari Nut*************************************************************
slackey@bbn.com (Stan Lackey) (10/18/88)
In article <158@dalcsug.UUCP> euloth@dalcsug.UUCP (Glenn Euloth) writes: >reason I am asking is seeing the stuff in the Zmag #124 about the Turbo-816 >product from Dataque. This is another product that seems to have escaped I'll bet you a Coke that this chip is, or is similar to, the chip used in the AppleIIGS - 6502 mode, plus a 16-bit mode. Gee, I might get back into programming in assembly language again! -Stan
gdtltr@vax1.acs.udel.EDU (Gary D Duzan) (10/18/88)
If anyone is interested, I have made a minor modification to GOS to allow its use with SpartaDos instead of MyDOS. It was a simple matter of finding the CIO calls and switching them. Binary Load and Create Dir now work properly. It is still not terribly useful, but it is amusing. Gary Duzan Time Lord Third Regeneration p.s. I have yet to get any replies about Amodem 7.4. If you have it around or at least can give me a hint on where to get it, please let me know. GD,TL,TR,AEE
gdtltr@vax1.acs.udel.EDU (Gary D Duzan) (10/19/88)
In article <30962@bbn.COM> slackey@BBN.COM (Stan Lackey) writes: >In article <158@dalcsug.UUCP> euloth@dalcsug.UUCP (Glenn Euloth) writes: >>reason I am asking is seeing the stuff in the Zmag #124 about the Turbo-816 >>product from Dataque. This is another product that seems to have escaped > >I'll bet you a Coke that this chip is, or is similar to, the chip used >in the AppleIIGS - 6502 mode, plus a 16-bit mode. Gee, I might get back >into programming in assembly language again! >-Stan A week or so ago, I was looking through the computer books in the library here at the U of D when I came across a book called "65816/65802 Assembly Language Programming". I imagined that the 65816 is what will be what is going to be used in the Turbo-816 so I checked it out. It does have a 6502 mode, but its native mode is about the same. In fact, as far I have determined, the 6502 mode does a couple setup things and then restricts the 16 bit opcodes from being used. The 65816 has a few ideas taken from the 65C02 (BRA, PHX,PHY,etc.), the ability to access 16Meg addresses, 8/16 bit selectable registers, and a movable stack (larger, too). I figure that there will not be much of a speed advantage unless the native 16-bit codes are used. Therefore, existing programs should run about the same speed except for calls to the OS (floating point should go a lot faster). What I would love to see is a SpartaDOS X-16 cartridge. Unix (or at least Minix) for the 8-bit would be nice too. Gary Duzan Time Lord Third Regeneration Atari Enthusiast Extreme
Ordania-DM@cup.portal.com (Charles K Hughes) (10/20/88)
Yes, the DataQue 816 is the 65816 chip and that chip is used in the Apple IIgs. It is an excellent chip and the developers package includes MAC/65 macros to allow use of the new commands.
kimes@ihlpe.ATT.COM (Kit Kimes) (10/21/88)
> > Yes, the DataQue 816 is the 65816 chip and that chip is used in the Apple > IIgs. It is an excellent chip and the developers package includes MAC/65 > macros to allow use of the new commands. Has anyone sent for and actually received any additional information on the DataQue product? If so, please post it to the net. Kit Kimes AT&T--Bell Laboratories ...att!ihlpe!kimes