[comp.sys.atari.8bit] OmniCom at 2400 bps?

njd@ihlpm.ATT.COM (DiMasi) (03/01/89)

I have a question  for  users   of   the   OmniCom   80-column   VT100
terminal  emulator.   (I  know  that there are some of you out there!)
Anyone who knows how to set up an 850 for different RS-232 speeds  may
be able to help, too.

I have been using OmniCom for several years now, and recently acquired
the  standalone  ("shareware") version.  I want to "upgrade" to a 2400
bps modem, but _will OmniCom work at 2400  bps?_   The   documentation
says  that  the program  may have trouble handling continuous incoming
characters at _1200_  bps,  if  there  are  no  pauses  (say,  between
"screenfuls"  of  lines),  under some  conditions.  (It also says that
OmniCom will use ^S (X-OFF) / ^Q (X-ON)  flow  control  to  keep  from
losing   characters.    Of   course,  if  the  host computer takes too
long to respond to  ^S,  characters  will  be  lost.)   I  have  never
experienced  a problem like this at 1200 bps.  Also, I seem to  recall
David  Young  (CDY) saying (a year or  two  ago?  sometime  before  he
"retired," anyway)  that  he  had  been working on improving OmniCom's
speed, even to handle 2400 bps.

If it will work  at  2400   bps   (even   with   possible   occasional
loss   of  characters,   but   I   would hope that file transfer, i.e.
Xmodem and Kermit, work OK), does anyone know what to set the 850  I/O
parameters  (or   whatever they're  called) for 2400 bps?  OmniCom has
no speed setting for 2400, only  300,  1200,  or  "custom"  for  user-
specified  I/O  control   parameters  for  the 850.   I  imagine  that
any program that sets up an 850 for 2400 bps would  have  to  use  the
same (or similar) values.....

I want to know if 2400 bps will work before I spend money  on  a  2400
bps modem (I suppose I could try to borrow one, but I still would like
to know if there is any hope of success.)

Thanks in advance for any help or information.

Nick DiMasi       njd@ihlpm.ATT.COM    ...att!ihlpm!njd    DELPHI: TURBONICK
Uni'q Digital Technologies (Fox Valley Software subsidiary;
   ^          working as a contractor at AT&T Bell Labs in Naperville, IL)
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gdtltr@vax1.acs.udel.EDU (Gary D Duzan) (03/01/89)

   I have used Omnicom at 2400 with little problem (though I normaly use
Kermit65). The custom option lets you set your baud by the parameters of the
set baud XIO command. I don't know the number off the top of my head, but
you should be able to find it in your 850 manual. The only reason XON/XOFF
has to be used is the slow 80-column screen handler. Scrolling is particularly
bad since it has to move a whole screenfull of bits. This isn't a problem
with Kermit and Xmodem since they don't print the data to the screen. Your
best bet, if you can do it, is to configure the system you are calling to
clear the screen as much as possible instead of scrolling as it will go much
faster. XON/XOFF speed isn't too bad a problem unless you are going through
a network or two that don't support it (transparant). Also, in case you are
thinking of using a PLATO system in ascii mode, don't bother. Control-Q is
SHIFT-STOP on PLATO, so everytime the screen scrolls a few times in a row you
will get kicked out of whatever you are doing. Not a fun experience. You may
also consider picking up Kermit65. Flow control is optional in K65.

					Gary Duzan
					Time  Lord
				    Third Regeneration
				 Atari Enthusiast Extreme

p.s. For those of you who noticed, I am in fact no longer isolated from the
net. Now you all get to put up with me for another semester. ;-]

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