bartlett@maxzilla.Encore.COM (John Bartlett) (02/21/89)
Help!
We gave my brother a Macintosh for Xmas, and I promised him (without
understanding the details of how) that I would get his text files converted
from his Atari 800XL onto the Mac. WELL... I discover this is not as easy as
one might believe ..
I have here two boxes of disks, his files, in ASCII format (some format that
Atari lets you put files into ...). I have not yet bitten off the job of
building a serial line interface from the atari onto some other system.
Here it is. If you can help me, lets work out a deal. I can deal with this
text on IBM-PC, Mac (final destination) or Unix tar tape. If you can get it
from Atari 5 1/4 disk into one of these other forms, I will pay some bucks, and
be most grateful, all at the same time.
Please drop a note or call.
John Bartlett UUCP: {necntc,talcott,bu-cs,decvax}!encore!bartlett
Encore Computer Corp. Internet: bartlett@multimax.ARPA
257 Ceder Hill Street
Marlboro, Mass. 01752 N.E.Telephone (508) 460-0500
Opinions are not necessarily those of Encore Computer Corp.yehuda@solarium.CWRU.EDU (Yechiel Yehuda) (02/21/89)
In article <4945@xenna.Encore.COM> bartlett@encore.UUCP (John Bartlett) writes: >Help! [... stuff ...] >Here it is. If you can help me, lets work out a deal. I can deal with this >text on IBM-PC, Mac (final destination) or Unix tar tape. If you can get it >from Atari 5 1/4 disk into one of these other forms,I will pay some bucks, and >be most grateful, all at the same time. >Please drop a note or call. >John Bartlett UUCP: {necntc,talcott,bu-cs,decvax}!encore!bartlett >Encore Computer Corp. Internet: bartlett@multimax.ARPA >257 Ceder Hill Street >Marlboro, Mass. 01752 N.E.Telephone (508) 460-0500 I hate to say this but me too! I need to get text files from my atari 800[xl] to either an IBM, Mac, or Un*x system. I have stuff in dos II dos III and a bit of stuff in almost any atari dos -- but I can transfer back and forth. I too am willing to pay some bucks, and will be grateful. So if you can help John, help me too. Thanks, Gil Yehuda 2415 Milton Rd. University Hts. OH 44118 (216) 381-1910 Y. Gil Yehuda gil@bach.ces.cwru.edu yehuda@skybridge.sdi.cwru.edu Artificial Intelligence major under UGSP.
clf3678@ultb.UUCP (C.L. Freemesser) (02/22/89)
It's pretty easy to transfer the files. What I did was to get a hold of an old R-verter interface (a really cruddy modem interface for the 8-bits), and reverse pins 2 and 3. Voila, instant null modem cable! It hooks up directly to the 8-bit via the SIO port, and to the RS-232 machine (in my case an ST). Then just load up term programs and transfer the files to the Mac. I'm not sure, but did you say that the Atari files are in ASCII? Did you use Atariwriter + to do this (CTRL-S I think). Then there should be no problems. I might be willing to sell my null modem cable, complete with software. Leave me a mail message. I forgot to mention that you need a modified term program for the 8-bit to do this transfer. Mine is a modified AMODEM 7.5 (or so) with a little fix by Bob Puff (of Diskcomm fame). =cf= A
Ordania-DM@cup.portal.com (Charles K Hughes) (02/22/89)
RE: xfer of 8bit text files to other computers... The easiest way to do this is to upload the text files to the net, or a BBS and then download them. (On the net send them as mail to yourself, same for a BBS.) ALL the other ways to do this involve some expensive hardware, except for building a null modem cable to go between the computers and then you have to know the exact port configs and write some software for the xfer. Good Luck Ordania-DM @cup.portal.com
RCH@cup.portal.com (Ric C Helton) (02/22/89)
To the people needing to transfer files.... All you need to do is get a modem for the Atari. You can pick up a 300b modem for $30 or less mail order, with software, and then upload to any PC or even to PORTAL for downloading. If these are unapplealing, send me the Atari disk, and the IBM disk, and I will transfer them for you!!! :-) I can always use extra ca$h! -Ric RCH@cup.portal.com
Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com (02/22/89)
Transferring files from an 8-bit Atari to another computer CAN be fairly simple.. A lot of it depends on the equipment you have available. If you still have the 8-bit Atari *and* a working modem setup, you're home free... you can use the modem to transfer the files to the other computer and its modem. Set one computer up at one house and the other at another, then use any good terminal program to call up and upload the files. If you have two telephone lines in the same house, even better. Just call the other line with the other computer on that line. (This is how my 800 talks to my ST) If you have an Atari 850 Interface, or a P:R: Connection interface for the 8-bit Atari, you can dispense with the modems and use a "Null-Modem" device to connect the computers directly together. All a Null-Modem is, is a connector that routes the Send and Receive lines to the proper places. I'm not sure, but Radio Shack might have them.. Another thought.. before you spend any bucks, there might be a local Atari users' group nearby which could help you.. Email me your city, and I can try to look up the closest group.. these mutual support groups will often go out of their ways to help people in just these situations..! (I know... I do it all the time for my user group) BobR
rcc9885@ultb.UUCP (R.C. Costello) (02/23/89)
One thing that everyone keeps forgeting is the fact that the 8 bit doesn't store ascii quite the same way as a Mac or IBM does. Unless these files where already converted, then the will have to have the atascii returns converted to ascii returns. Even if they program you used said "save ascii" it may still have used chr$(155) for a carriage return.. I wouldn't jump to conclusions on how "easy" converting files from one computer to another is. Escpecially if it going from on program to another. (say Synfile to Paradox) They may both save ascii, but that doesn't mean that the ascii files are compatiable..
lanzki@infoac.rmi.de (J}rgen Lanzki ) (02/24/89)
I've a null-modem-cable between my 800XL and my ST. So I can sawap files between theese se computers. If this can solve your problem , please drop me a note. greetings Juergen ------------------------------------------------------------ Juergen Lanzki RMI Net , Aachen, West-Germany UUCP: lanzki@infoac.rmi.de ...!unido!rmi.de!infoac!lanzki ------------------------------------------------------------
meadb@tramp.Colorado.EDU (MEAD BENNETT ROSS) (02/24/89)
I agree with the general idea of the discussion, all the things that have been suggested hardware wise look good, but my experience with atari 8bit terminal programs is that they don't mesh with the terminal programs of other computers. My dad and I spent about 4 hours engineering a program on the atari that would send a syn file program over to an Amiga database (True they were different types of applications, but the data files were almost exactly the same.) After that he spent hours trying to get the database to accept the data our atari had sent it. The moral of the story? Well if you are really set upon sending data from one computer to another you can, but it is harder than it sounds. _______________________________________________________________________________ | | | | Mead@tramp.colorado.edu | In this day and age there isn't any | | Use reply for usenet | Such thing as NORMAL. |
RCH@cup.portal.com (Ric C Helton) (02/26/89)
In reference to the ATASCII C~R 155 v. ASCII CR 12 (or 13?)... I have a very good shareware program called SDVERT.COM that runs under SpartaDOS 3.2. It will convert the CR/LF sequence from one form to any other, for about 5 different types of machines... it will strip out the ATASCII 155 and replace it with either an ASCII CR, or LF, or both. If you need it, send me net mail.... -Ric Helton RCH@cup.portal.com -Freestyle BBS 404/546-8256
Star-Raider@cup.portal.com (Jack Wahoo Pettrey) (03/03/89)
Methinks the aforementioned problems dealt with the Atari text files being in ATASCI instead of ASCII... ergo the difficulty reading them even when transferring them over to a new medium. Before attempting to build the null modem cable and tranfer files, do yourself a favor and save the Atari files in standard ASCII format... otherwise you're asking for trouble.