ATKIN@GRIN1.BITNET (05/22/89)
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THE BITNET ARCHIVE FOR 8-BIT ATARI SOFTWARE IS OPERATIONAL !
Sound familiar? Well, here's the important bit--
AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY FILES THERE !
Yes, almost everything that's supposed to be there has now been stored.
This means that anyone who can send mail to bitnet can now get copies
of Super-UnArc, YAU, Kermit-65, the GOE demo, and lots of other files
that have long been available on the Internet archive. (However, people
with FTP access to the Internet archive should use it instead of the
Bitnet archive, for traffic load reasons.)
The Bitnet archive consists of a bunch of files managed by a list server
at Bitnet node TCSVM (Tulane University---thanks guys!). To get files,
a directory of the files, or whatever, you send a command to the LISTSERV
program (daemon, server, whatever.) Commands can be sent to listserv in
three basic ways: interactive messages, mail, and non-mail files.
If you are directly connected to bitnet and your system supports them,
interactive messages are the easiest way to send a command to listserv.
The command to send an interactive message is:
"TELL LISTSERV AT TCSVM" on VM/SP systems,
"TRANSMIT TCSVM.LISTSERV NOPROLOG" on MVS systems with TSO/E,
"TO LISTSERV@TCSVM" on some JES2 systems (you might have to
use "VMSG" or "XMSG" instead of "TO")
"SEND LISTSERV@TCSVM" on VAX/VMS systems.
Then type the listserv command as the text of the message.
If you can't use interactive messages, you can probably use mail. The
command to send a mail message (as if you don't know) is:
"NOTE LISTSERV AT TCSVM" on (all) VM systems, or
"MAIL LISTSERV@TCSVM" on VM systems with a Crosswell mailer,
"TELL LISTSERV@TCSVM" on VAX/VMS systems.
Most other systems have a mail facility, but I don't know all the commands.
PROFS users can send PROFS mail, but it must be send as MAIL, not DOCUMENT.
Anyway, type the listserv command (on one line) as the mail message.
If neither of these work, you'll have to resort to (non-mail) file
transmission. Prepare a file in advance containing the listserv command(s)
(one per line). The command to send the file to listserv is:
"SENDFILE filename filetype TO LISTSERV AT TCSVM" on VM systems,
"TRANSMIT TCSVM.LISTSERV DATASET(dsname)" on MVS systems,
"SEND/FILE filespec LISTSERV@TCSVM" on VAX/VMS systems.
Okay, now that you know how to send a command to the list server, you're
probably wondering what the commands look like. There are two commands
you're probably interested in:
INDEX ATARI8-F
will cause the server to mail/send you the directory of files that it
knows about. Note that there may be a few files listed that haven't yet been
stored there. (Don't ask.) Such files can be identified by the presence of
dots where the file length and modification time should be. The other command:
GET filename filetype ATARI8-F
will cause the server to mail/send you a copy of the named file. Note that
there is a space (not a period, not a slash, a SPACE) between the name and the
type. You should hear back from the server within a day or two, assuming all
links between you and it are up, so don't send the same commands repeatedly.
If you use interactive messages, the server will acknowledge your command with
an interactive message and then mail/send you the file.
For example, if you're on a VAX/VMS system (running JNET), after typing
SEND LISTSERV@TCSVM GET SUPUNARC UUE
you should see a message from the server like "file supunarc uue sent to you"
and eventually a system message like "received network file supunarc.uue"
indicating that it arrived.
Questions or problems should be sent to John Dunning
(jrd@stony-brook.scrc.symbolics.com) as I am graduating tomorrow to join the
ranks of the unemployed, and won't be able to spend much time making long-
distance phone calls to my alma matter's computer.
Geoffrey Atkin, atkin@grin1.bitnet or [72337,3414] on Compu$serve.slackey@bbn.com (Stan Lackey) (05/23/89)
In article <19890522142658.9.JRD@MOA.SCRC.Symbolics.COM> ATKIN@GRIN1.BITNET writes: > THE BITNET ARCHIVE FOR 8-BIT ATARI SOFTWARE IS OPERATIONAL ! > > "SENDFILE filename filetype TO LISTSERV AT TCSVM" on VM systems, > "TRANSMIT TCSVM.LISTSERV DATASET(dsname)" on MVS systems, > "SEND/FILE filespec LISTSERV@TCSVM" on VAX/VMS systems. Lots of other stuff deleted... Anyway, can these operations (getting a directory, getting files) be done on usenet from a Sun3 network? If so, how? ---Stan