[comp.sys.atari.8bit] Help in downloading...

pm16579@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (10/27/89)

Hey anyone who can help,
  How do I properly download stuff from the FTP site?
When I tried the Unarchiver that I downloaded from the 8bit site,
It totally choked on me. And all the rest of the stuff is ARC'ed,
so I'm stuck. This is my procedure:
  At ftp, change directory to atari.8bit
  Then issue a BIN command
  Then GET or MGET as the case may be
  Then I get back into UXA and SX (FILENAME). This works and
I transfer the file OK, but I can't seem to run it properly.
I am talking about the SUPUNARC.COM file; I don't know if I
downloaded properly, or I am runnign it wrong; I tried binary loading
it from DOS 2.6f with and without BASIC and it screws up. CAn anyone
straighten me out?
                                           Paulito Mendoza

jrd@STONY-BROOK.SCRC.SYMBOLICS.COM (John R. Dunning) (10/29/89)

    Date: 27 Oct 89 09:40:34 GMT
    From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!pm16579@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu

    Hey anyone who can help,
      How do I properly download stuff from the FTP site?
    When I tried the Unarchiver that I downloaded from the 8bit site,
    It totally choked on me. 

Precisely what does "totally choked" mean?  Refused to load?  loaded but
then errored?  Melted down your computer?

			     And all the rest of the stuff is ARC'ed,
    so I'm stuck. This is my procedure:
      At ftp, change directory to atari.8bit
      Then issue a BIN command
      Then GET or MGET as the case may be
      Then I get back into UXA and SX (FILENAME). 

That should work.  Is the byte count of you local copy the same as the
one in the archive?  (should be 10279, for what's there now)

What are you using for the receive side of your Xmodem?  

						  This works and
    I transfer the file OK, but I can't seem to run it properly.
    I am talking about the SUPUNARC.COM file; I don't know if I
    downloaded properly, or I am runnign it wrong; I tried binary loading
    it from DOS 2.6f with and without BASIC and it screws up. CAn anyone
    straighten me out?

It's entirely possible that you're losing due to the dreaded Xmodem bug.
Due to lack of foresight on the part of the designers, Xmodem can only
transfer things in multiples of 128 (or some power of 2, maybe 256?)
bytes.  Space off the end is filled with ^Z's.  Sadly, your Atari
doesn't know from files that were written with garbage at the end, and
attempts to binary load the ^Z,s thus scribbling in memory that it
shouldn't.  Things go downhill in a hurry.

If that's the problem, you might be better off transferring things as
uuencoded text, at least until you can ARC bootstrapped.  I've put a
uuencoded copy of Supunarc in the terminator archives.  Grab the text,
download it as text, and use the BASIC uudecoder to untangle it, unless
you've already got YAU or something.  If you only have access to a
version of Xmodem that doesn't understand the concept of text files,
download the text as binary, and write a little basic program to clean
it up.

That should leave you with an executable without garbage, which you can
then use to unpack the other files.