JHSangster@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (02/24/90)
Oops, too bad this "reply" function won't let me fill in a Subject.. For Ronnie Hughes: IDC's phone number is... (815) 968-2228 (voice). BBS number is 968-2229 and fax is 968-6888 Address is 1220 Rock Street, Rockford, IL 61101-1437. Info accurate as of December 1987, hope it's close enough. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- For Nick DiMasi and others, info on 800XL chroma mod and whatnot. Mapping The Atari, Revised Addition, page 237, shows the connector pinouts for the "800 and XL/XE's" as follows: Audio output 3 1 Composite luminance Composite chroma 5 4 Composite video 2 Ground The "notch" in the connector is at the top, opposite pin 2 (ground). In actuality, Composite Chroma is NOT brought out in the 800XL, and presumably also not in the XE series. The mod that was posted, which I think comes from the Feb. 1986 issue of ANTIC, shows a 200-ohm resistor brought out from the junction of the existing R67 and R68 to pin 5 of the monitor jack. For those of you who don't have the whole schematic committed to memory, R68 is a 3000-ohm (orange-black-red) resistor which is coupled by C55 (100pF capacitor) from the video amp (Q3) output where it connects to the modulator at pin 1. R67 is a 75-ohm re- sistor which leads from the color amp (Q5) out through C54 and L7 to the composite video output (monitor jack pin 4). Here's an attempt to render the diagram. Turn on your PostScript interpreters... Q3 (video amp) emitter -------/\/\/\/-----\_/\_/\_/\_/-----+---------> Modulator pin 1 R54, 1200 ohms L6, "2" (uH?) | | = C55, 100pF | Z R68, 3000ohms Z Z | 200 ohms (new chroma out) +---/\/\/\/\-----> Monitor | (added) Jack, Pin 5 | Q5 color amp | emitter -----------------------------------+---/\/\/\/\--||--- - - R67 C54 75 ohms .001 uF I'm not entirely certain why the resistor value chosen was 200 ohms. If you are driving 75 ohm cable with it, you might find that the picture is sharper if you use something in the vicinity of 47 to 75 ohms. I'd try 47 or 56 ohms myself, to give as close to 75 ohms source impedance as humanly possible. HINT: emitter followers at low frequencies exhibit an emitter output source impedance of around 26 ohms at room temperature. Add that to the resistor value to get a rough idea of your actual source impedance. Incidentally, I thought I sensed some confusion out there. The output that the Atari 8-bitters provide (incl XL/XE with the above mod) is your choice of composite video, composite luminance, or separate chroma. Composite video is made up by combining chroma and luminance signals and putting the chroma in at the color subcarrier frequency of 3.579545 MHz. The signal is "double sideband", and the lower sideband falls well down into the band occupied by the luminance signal, which starts at DC and extends upward. If you could let it go up to 6 MHz or so, you would have REAL SHARP picture resolution. Obviously, with color stuck in there, you have to do something to limit the bandwidth of both luminance and chroma signals so they will not spill over and interfere with each other. Actually, there is a bit of black magic to it, and the system actually has been made to work better than theoretically possible, sort of like the bumblebee or the analog magnetic tape recorder, neither of which can possibly accomplish what they do. Anyway, by keeping the luminance and chroma on separate wires, you don't have to limit their bandwidth, you can preserve it and have an incredibly sharp picture. What any monitor must do, however, is to take the chroma and the luminance signals and "decode" them, using, typically, a chip called an "NTSC Decoder". (NTSC, of course, stands for "never twice the same color".) An RGB monitor, on the other hand, expects the decoding to have already been done for it. To hook an RGB monitor to an Atari 8-bitter, you must supply your own NTSC decoder circuit, to convert the composite chroma and luminance into the R, G, and B signals. According to a cousin of mine who is both an Atari 800XL fan and the chief engineer of WAAY-TV in Huntsville, AL (and also a former professional video special effects equipment designer), if you buy an off the shelf NTSC decoder chip and hook it up in the obvious way, you will likely run afoul of some funny "matrixing" that is done in the chip which will give you slightly incorrect colors. Apparently the tubes used in TV sets want something other than pure R, G, and B signals, and that's what the typical chips give them -- something other. My cousin says that the right way to build the device you need is with separate balanced modulator chips and some fine-tuning adjustments that will let you balance the colors correctly. If anybody REALLY wants to build such a device, I will put you in touch with my cousin and a friend who I think built one under his tutelage. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Finally, the joystick ports... whew, had to sweat a little to find this, it is on page C-1 of the 400/800 hardware manual. 1. Forward Input 6. Trigger Input 2. Back Input 7. +5 Volts 3. Left Input 8. Ground 4. Right Input 9. "A" Potentiometer input 5. "B" Potentiometer input Physical layout looking at the jack 1 2 3 4 5 o o o o o o o o o 6 7 8 9 I hope this answers at least all the questions I was trying to help with! -John Sangster SPHINX Technologies, Inc. (617) 235-8800