[comp.sys.atari.8bit] 80-col. telecomm.

pm16579@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (03/09/90)

  Does anyone have any input they can give me on software-driven 80-col.
  telecommunications programs?
    The only ones that I know of are VT100 (or I think it's called
  VT10sqr) which does'nt have file transfer, and Omnicom, which I am
  using now (hopefully I will get the docs soon; it's a great program
  and the text looks great on a color monitor).
    I really like Bobterm, but I haven't fiddled with it since getting
  Omnicom. Very slick thing; I find it to be aesthetically pleasing.
  Has Robert Puff come out with an 80-column module? I have the XEP80
  driver, but I can't afford to get an XEP80 and another monitor.
    Maybe if I get too bored over spring break I'll try to implement
  80 columns on it, but I doubt that I would be that persistent/
  ingenious/bored/clever/patient.

                                               Thanks in advance.
                                               Paulito Mendoza

kimes@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (Kit Kimes) (03/14/90)

From article <49700015@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>, by Paulito Mendoza:
> 
>   Does anyone have any input they can give me on software-driven 80-col.
>   telecommunications programs?
>     The only ones that I know of are VT100 (or I think it's called
>   VT10sqr) which does'nt have file transfer, and Omnicom, which I am
>   using now (hopefully I will get the docs soon; it's a great program
>   and the text looks great on a color monitor).

Omnicom seems to be the terminal communications program of choice by those
who call a system that needs VT100 capability and 80 columns.  I have
just recently started playing around with it, but haven't been able
to get it to work with a direct connected SX-212.  I have been trying
to use either the handler that C. David Young includes and recommends
for the 1030 or the handler by James Dillow (?) that was on my Bobterm
disk and definitely works with the SX212 connected directly to the 
SIO port.  I have been unsucessful so far.  If anyone is using OmniCom
and a directly connected SX212, please post here or send me mail 
telling me how you are doing it.

The other program that some like is Kermit-65 by John Dunning (maybe?)
the has a very good file transfer section and VT100 emulation.  I
forget if it is 80 column software porgram or not.  I have never used
it.  I have it on our UNIX (R) machine but no way presently to get
it down to my Atari.

>     I really like Bobterm, but I haven't fiddled with it since getting
>   Omnicom. Very slick thing; I find it to be aesthetically pleasing.
>   Has Robert Puff come out with an 80-column module? I have the XEP80
>   driver, but I can't afford to get an XEP80 and another monitor.
>     Maybe if I get too bored over spring break I'll try to implement
>   80 columns on it, but I doubt that I would be that persistent/
>   ingenious/bored/clever/patient.

If you mean one that give you 80 columns in software, so that your
terminal window is in 80 column and your options page in 40 column,
I have not seen or heard of such a thing.  But it is a great idea.
Go for it.  I will pay a shareware price for the module if it works.
The other thing that BobTerm needs is VT100 emulation.  The VT52 (vidtex)
emulation that is built in just doesn't cut it on our UNIX system.  The
problem may be that you are working in 40 column, but I find it unusable.
Using VI is too hard.  I have to redraw the screen (^L) after every
cursor move and even then, I can screw up.

All other things considered, BobTerm is my program of choice for calling
BBS's, etc.  It is very user friendly and works great using SpartaDOS.
I haven't gotten around to sending my check to Bob yet, but it will be
in the mail soon.  This is a very polished program and worth every bit
of the $15 he suggests. 

Kit Kimes
AT&T Bell Labs
Naperville, IL
...!att!iwtsa!kimes

usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) (03/15/90)

Kit jumps on the chance to tell everyone about Omincom everytime the
issue of 80-cols comes up on the 8-bit, so I'm going to mention this
time that I was a lot happier with the 80-col support in Kermit/65.

For as much as I use my 8-bit in 80cols, Kermit/65 was a better program
for my needs. Especially being Kermit, since I have to work across a
lot of networks and wind up making use of various peculiar features
of Kermit.

Terry Conklin
conklin@egr.msu.edu
uunet!frith!conklin
The Club (517) 372-3131