[sci.electronics] X10 specs/parameters

syap@ur-tut.UUCP (James Fitzwilliam) (02/14/88)

I'm an owner of a good amount of the carrier-current remote equipment with
the various nameplates -- Timer, Telephone Responder, Powerhouse... and I
have a few questions for netland:

Are parameters for the X10 system publicly available, if so, where?  i.e.
what must be broadcast on the AC line for "Unit E-15 / Dim / All off"  I'm
interested in a telephone controller that would respond to touch-tones,
but since I have the Powerhouse I would rather not get the Homeminder, so:

Are ROM or other chips with the X10 command set available for purchase?  It
would be amazingly simple to buy a chip for the X10 controls, hook it up to
a tone decoder, and - presto - telephone response.  (Or are the chips off
limits to prevent people from doing exactly that?)

A general electronics question: Since I've never actually seen a design for
a carrier-current operated device, I'm curious as to how the transmitter is
isolated from the high-voltage AC on the "antenna" i.e. the line cord.

Thanks in advance for any comments, answers, sources, advice.

					James

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psfales@ihlpe.ATT.COM (Pete Fales) (02/16/88)

In article <960@ur-tut.UUCP>, syap@ur-tut.UUCP (James Fitzwilliam) writes:
> Are parameters for the X10 system publicly available, if so, where?  i.e.
> what must be broadcast on the AC line for "Unit E-15 / Dim / All off"  I'm
> interested in a telephone controller that would respond to touch-tones,
> but since I have the Powerhouse I would rather not get the Homeminder, so:

The May, 1985 issue of Byte had an article called  "Build The Home Run 
Control System - Part 2: The Hardware"  by Steve Ciarcia.  This article
included a detailed description of the signals that are sent over the AC
line and included schematics for some hardware to generate them.

> 
> Are ROM or other chips with the X10 command set available for purchase?  It
> would be amazingly simple to buy a chip for the X10 controls, hook it up to
> a tone decoder, and - presto - telephone response.  (Or are the chips off
> limits to prevent people from doing exactly that?)

If you find any let me know!

> A general electronics question: Since I've never actually seen a design for
> a carrier-current operated device, I'm curious as to how the transmitter is
> isolated from the high-voltage AC on the "antenna" i.e. the line cord.

See the above mentioned article.  As I recall (working from memory now)
Steve was understandably concerned about builder safety and chose an
approach involving a custom isolation transformer.  There are probably
cheaper approaches that could be used in high-volume sealed boxes like
the BSR units.  Obviously, anything involving a direct interface to 120VAC
should be approached with a great deal of care.

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tedk@ihuxv.ATT.COM (Kekatos) (02/17/88)

In article <960@ur-tut.UUCP> syap@ur-tut.UUCP (James Fitzwilliam) writes:
>
>Are parameters for the X10 system publicly available, if so, where?  i.e.
>what must be broadcast on the AC line for "Unit E-15 / Dim / All off"  I'm
>interested in a telephone controller that would respond to touch-tones,
>but since I have the Powerhouse I would rather not get the Homeminder, so:
>					James

This subject is lively on the 'misc.consumers.house' newsgroup. There have
been several magazine articles about building controllers.

Subscribe there and look for "home automation" and "X-10". 

You could then try posting same request on misc.consumer.house 

gary@percival.UUCP (Gary Wells) (02/19/88)

AC Line carrier devices isolate themselves from the "antenna" (AC line) via 
a step down transformer.  Once its down to a rational voltage, you can pick it
off with a diff amp IC.

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