[sci.electronics] Direct video input

jdc3538@ritcv.UUCP (Jim Cronin) (03/21/88)

I would like to recycle some unused TV's for computer use.  Have any of you
ever attempted adding a direct video input?  Wouldn't it have to go right
after the I.F amplifier?  Is there any way to add RGB inputs?  Now THAT would
be a handy thing to have.
Thanks...Jim

krc@cs.purdue.EDU (Kenny Crudup) (03/30/88)

In article <283@ritcv.UUCP>, jdc3538@ritcv.UUCP (Jim Cronin) writes:
> I would like to recycle some unused TV's for computer use.  Have any of you
> ever attempted adding a direct video input?

Yup. Works Ok, but forget composite 80 x 24 color. (Even as RGB, see below)
Either use a cold-chassis set, or *USE AN ISOLATION TRANSFORMER*. Forget any
thing with tubes in it. That wreck.audio tube purist bullshit doesn't carry
over to video. It *can* be done, but you'll have real *fun*.

> Wouldn't it have to go right after the I.F amplifier?

Better than that- do it after the 1st video amp, just before the video output.
It has to be before sync separation, unless you intend to pipe in sync yourself.
Remove *all* the traps, filters, 3.58/4.5 ceramics etc. Once I made an AC-
coupled $45 b&w tv set into a DC-coupled monitor with decent resolution.
Damn good. Just moved around a few parts and stuff. No real hassle. Get
a Sams for the set, of course.

> Is there any way to add RGB inputs?  Now THAT would be a handy thing to have.

Yes, but depending on your set, it rides on a voltage level used for setting
brightness/picture. This is usually the case for discrete (several transistors
as opposed to all-on-one-chip-like-Sanyo Tv's). The everything on a chip
sets are a little bit better for this.

> Thanks...Jim

No problem.
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markz@ssc.UUCP (Mark Zenier) (03/31/88)

In article <283@ritcv.UUCP>, jdc3538@ritcv.UUCP (Jim Cronin) writes:
> I would like to recycle some unused TV's for computer use.  Have any of you
> ever attempted adding a direct video input?  Wouldn't it have to go right
> after the I.F amplifier?  Is there any way to add RGB inputs?  Now THAT would
> be a handy thing to have.
> Thanks...Jim

A problem is that TV's are cheaply built and may not have any isolation 
from the power line.  Plug your TV in backwards and your computer blows up.

(This happened to some poor soul up here in Seattle about 10 years ago, and
the local club got together and scrounged up all the chips necessary to 
rebuild his altair)

Some older sets run with a rectifier right on the power line which feeds
everything.  These are bad news.  Newer sets use the Horiz. drive as a
switching power supply so most of the circuitry is isolated.

Check out the TV typewriter Cookbook by Don Lancaster for B&W mods. From
Sams about 1976 but it may still be in print.

You will probably be dissapointed in the resolution of the display since 
when selling a TV, It only has to look better than the one next to it
in the display room, and cost is everything.
Anything new enough to have decent resolution probaly has a direct input 
already.

As to RGB, it will be easier to add this than composite to some sets.

Mark Zenier

simon@ms.uky.edu (George Simon) (04/10/88)

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larry@pdn.UUCP (Larry Swift) (04/12/88)

In article <8873@e.ms.uky.edu> simon@ms.uky.edu (Simon Gales) writes:
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>	If converting a color TV to RGB is not easy, how about doing the same 
>	to a color composite monitor... How good of an RGB could I get?  

Gotta be just as bad -- a lotta stuff you'll need just isn't there in a 
composite.  Why not just get an RGB monitor?  It just so happens I've got
an analog one, 19", open frame, that I'll sell cheap.


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