sj1f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steven Kent Jensen) (04/22/88)
I have heard about an MSDOS version of SPICE. Where can I get a copy
of this? Taking a tip form an earlier posting about the official version of
SPICE being at Berkeley I looked there thinking that the MSDOS version might be
nearby. Looking at (what I thought were) the four most likely machines I did
not find it. If MSDOS SPICE is at Berkeley, which machine is it on?
Steven Jensenkaul@accelerator.eng.ohio-state.edu (Rich Kaul) (04/23/88)
There is an MSDOS version of SPICE available. Just get the sources to SPICE from Berkeley and compile with the Lattice C compiler V3.1. I'm not sure if it works with later versions of the compiler and I strongly suspect that it won't run with any other C compiler for the PC. I really should try and see how it reacts to MS C... The bad point about this is that SPICE from Berkeley is going to cost you $150 for the Unix tape/10 AT floppies/25 PC floppies. And if you have to buy the compiler you're going to shell out more. Also, due to the glorious memory limitations of the PC you're going to have to select what parts of SPICE you can do without, unless you want to run out of memory after about two transistors. This version of SPICE is PD, so if you can find someone who has it, they can give it to you free. But keep in mind the sources run more than 5 meg. There are commercial versions of SPICE available for the PC. One I've used and liked is from MicroSim out in CA. It's nice, will run on PC/XT/ATs and gives pretty good results. The post processor gives good graphics for the output, but requires an 80x87 to run. Of course, running SPICE on a PC without an 80x87 is going to be cause to go and take a nap. If you contact MicroSim they may be willing to give you a demo version I they have. They charge about $500 for the simulator and $450 for the post processor last I heard. -- Rich Kaul kaul@icarus.eng.ohio-state.edu kaul@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu "You must realize that the computer has it in for you. The irrefutable proof of this is that the computer always does what you tell it to do."
cgs@umd5.umd.edu (Chris Sylvain) (04/23/88)
In article <QWPml6y00Xc6MZw0=T@andrew.cmu.edu> sj1f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steven Kent Jensen) writes: > > I have heard about an MSDOS version of SPICE. Where can I get a copy >of this? The best MSDOS SPICE product I know of is PSPICE by MicroSim. They'll send you a demo, or should I post the demo in comp.binaries.ibm.pc? -- --==---==---==-- .. did gyre and gymble in the wabe: .. ARPA: cgs@umd5.UMD.EDU BITNET: cgs%umd5@umd2 UUCP: ..!uunet!umd5.umd.edu!cgs
wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) (04/25/88)
I've been running a spice program called Zspice from a company called Ztec that is located in/near Seattle Wa (I don't have the address handy at this terminal). I've been using for about a year and a half. Their version is fairly complete relative to the "official" Berkeley version. Supports parameter variation, piecewise models, etc. The graphics package supports HPGL and a couple of other plotter types as well as so-so EGA graphics. The best part is that it *can* run without an 80x87 coprocessor. There are basic element models for 2N3904, 1N914, etc, plus recently they announced they have some component model libraries. At the time I got it, Ztec was charging $275 for it. It was cheaper to go their route, rather than having to shell out for the tapes, *and* c compiler and then doing my own debugging. I think Ztec advertises pretty regularly in the back of Electronics magazine. I've been satisified with their spice for my needs, but then I haven't tried to push it with a 400 node circuit. My only complaint is that it is a memory pig. It needs just about all of the 640K in a PC | AT. I've been running on an 8 MHz AT compatible without an 80287. Zspice can do a 10Hz-10KHz bode plot on an active filter with about 20 nodes (6 pole) and my own LF351 SUBCKT element in about 1-1/2 minutes. --Bill