[sci.electronics] Powering circuits from serial p

william@pyr1.cs.ucl.ac.uk (07/22/88)

Yep, you can do this.  In fact I sucked power from everything coming in
including Rx.  I had the RS232 inputs all pumping into a bridge
rectifier feeding a pretty big capacitor, and this could drive
a little CMOS processor and UART.  The advantage was that the system
could enter a very low power mode to maintain its memory and charge
the cap when there was no Rx data, but the processor could be
woken up by a change in Rx and could process signals.  It also had some
control work which required the power in the cap.  I imagine that a 
cap could be used to store a +/-12 volt supply for short transmissions, and all
you would need to control it would be a couple of transistors or something.

I don't recall the exact spec, but I seem to recall that RS232 levels were
defined as valid from (+/-) 3-12V.  I think.  I remember that I had to
decide whether the above circuit should have to be designed around the fact 
that levels may be as little as 3V.

			... Bill

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wte@ncrcae.Columbia.NCR.COM (Bill Eason) (07/25/88)

In article <44000014@pyr1.cs.ucl.ac.uk> william@pyr1.cs.ucl.ac.uk writes:
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=Yep, you can do this.  In fact I sucked power from everything coming in
=including Rx.  I had the RS232 inputs all pumping into a bridge
=rectifier...
<stuff deleted>
=I don't recall the exact spec, but I seem to recall that RS232 levels were
=defined as valid from (+/-) 3-12V.  I think.  I remember that I had to
=decide whether the above circuit should have to be designed around the fact 
=that levels may be as little as 3V.
=
=			... Bill
=
=************************************************************************
=Bill Witts, CS Dept.     *
=UCL, London, Errrp       *       Don't believe everything you hear,
=william@uk.ac.ucl.cs(UK) *       or anything you say.
=william@cs.ucl.ac.uk(US) ***********************************************


If you should try this, don't forget the voltage losses you will experience
across the diodes: 0.7V typ? x 2 = 1.4V across a bridge rectifier.  This would
only leave a minimum of 1.6V for your circuit.  

Just a thought...

		        ... Bill

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