[sci.electronics] Data modulation on Powerlines

amajidim@marketing.UUCP (Amir Majidimehr) (11/12/88)

I would like to experiment with sending digital data on ordinary AC lines.
I know there are commercial modems that do that but I would like to come up
with a cheap and low speed version (110 to 300 baud).  Does anyone have
any information on books/articles on this topic?

Thanks a lot!

Amir H. Majidimehr
Gould Inc, Computer Systems Division
{sun,pur-ee,brl-bmd}!gould!amir

ciciora@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Ciciora; Steven joseph) (11/12/88)

In article <1440@marketing.UUCP> amajidim@marketing.UUCP (Amir Majidimehr) writes:
>I would like to experiment with sending digital data on ordinary AC lines.
>I know there are commercial modems that do that but I would like to come up
>with a cheap and low speed version (110 to 300 baud).  Does anyone have
>any information on books/articles on this topic?
>
>Thanks a lot!
>
>Amir H. Majidimehr
>Gould Inc, Computer Systems Division
>{sun,pur-ee,brl-bmd}!gould!amir

See the August 1983, vol 8 number 8 issue, page 36 of BYTE mag. 
Steve Ciarcia (my mentor) has an article called "Build a Power-Line Carrier-
Current Modem./Now your computer can communicate over electrical power wiring."
Any self-respecting library should have it, but if you absolutly can't find
it anywhere else, get a hold of me and I'll send you my copy.


Steven Ciciora
(303) 786-3630

gmg@hcx.uucp (Greg M. Garner) (11/12/88)

I would also be interested in anything about transmitting digital data over
power lines. Thanks!

 Greg Garner
 gmg@hcx.uucp   USENET:  ...!uunet!harris.cis.ksu.edu!hcx!gmg
 501-442-4847

ciciora@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Ciciora; Steven joseph) (11/13/88)

  Wait, let me look under my bed...
ah, here it is, all covered w/ dust.  Try looking in the August 1983, vol 8
#8 issue of BYTE, p.36.  "Build a Power-Line Carrier-Current Modem/
Now your computer can communicate over electrical power wiring." by
Steve Ciarcia.  A good library should have it, If not, I could send you a
copy of the article.  I thought I replied over the net, but come to think
of it, I don't remember seeing my origional posting.  If for some reason
my posting didn't work, could you return the favor and foward this info
to the origional poster?  Thanks, 
	Steve Ciciora

U of Colorado, boulder
226 brackett hall
boulder, colorado
80310
(303) 786-3630

-- oops, damn mailer bounced, so here it is re-posted on the net.  sorry.

markz@ssc.UUCP (Mark Zenier) (11/14/88)

In article <1153@cseg.uucp>, gmg@hcx.uucp (Greg M. Garner) writes:
> 
> I would also be interested in anything about transmitting digital data over
> power lines. Thanks!


See "Radio Electronics", July and August 1988  for a writeup of a kit 
using full duplex fsk at 100/150 khz.

Mark Zenier	uunet!pilchuck!ssc!markz		
"He did decide, though, that with more time and a great deal of mental effort,
he could probably turn the activity into an acceptable perversion"-Mick Farren

wbrown@beva.bev.lbl.gov (Bill Brown) (11/15/88)

In article <1440@marketing.UUCP> amajidim@marketing.UUCP (Amir Majidimehr) writes:
>I would like to experiment with sending digital data on ordinary AC lines.
>I know there are commercial modems that do that but I would like to come up
>with a cheap and low speed version (110 to 300 baud).  Does anyone have
>any information on books/articles on this topic?
>
>Thanks a lot!
>
>Amir H. Majidimehr
>Gould Inc, Computer Systems Division
>{sun,pur-ee,brl-bmd}!gould!amir

 National Semiconductor makes a couple of chips just for this sort of thing.
 They are the LM1893/LM2893 Carrier-Current Transceiver chips.

 The application notes that deal with them - sorry I don't have the numbers
 handy - cover the issues quite well.

							-bill
							WLBrown@lbl.gov

piety@hplabsb.HP.COM (Bob Piety) (11/16/88)

The HP Journal, May '87, has an article on the above subject.  The article
discusses line characteristics and common problems that may be encountered.

Bob