doug@letni.LawNet.Com (Doug Davis) (04/23/89)
I Recently obtained a nice very used UPS that was broken, after repairing the machine I was able to get the charging and inverting circuits working again. My problem lies in the batteries that it uses are Gel Cells which a couple of them will only hold a partial charge. But they do hold a charge. Two of them hold about 2/3rds normal voltage, and 2 more about half and one barely holds a volt. These are 6v gel cells. My question is, is there any way, like shocking NiCads, to recover full capacity of these gel cells. BTW: Replacement cost of these are ~50.00 (us) at Allied, So in the interest of saving $$ I would be willing to sacrifice some of them in the interest of experimentation. Thanks in advance. -- Doug Davis/LawNet/1030 Pleasant Valley Lane/Arlington/Texas/76015/817-467-3740 {sys1.tandy.com, motown!sys1, uiucuxc!sys1 lawnet, killer, texbell} letni!doug Same siggie, .9832% less filling..
larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) (04/23/89)
In article <2225@letni.LawNet.Com>, doug@letni.LawNet.Com (Doug Davis) writes: > My problem lies in the batteries that it uses are Gel Cells which > a couple of them will only hold a partial charge. But they do hold a > charge. Two of them hold about 2/3rds normal voltage, and 2 more about > half and one barely holds a volt. These are 6v gel cells. My question > is, is there any way, like shocking NiCads, to recover full capacity > of these gel cells. A common failure mode of gel cells is loss of electrolyte through overcharging and/or cracking of the case due to age and/or heating effects. This is most likely the cause of your difficulty There is no way to "shock" a lead-acid battery into effective operation. The only real option deals with correcting the condition of the electrolyte. Since gel cells are not designed for the user to gain access to the electrolyte, there is no effective way to do this. Furthermore, since gel cells use an electrolyte that is gelled using a thixotropic material such as methylcellulose, adding water to an existing gel without possibility of mechanical mixing is not practicable. There is no ready source for obtaining already gelled electrolyte - and even if same were available, this would not correct a low water condition. I have heard of a few intrepid souls who have opened sick gel cells and have diddled with the electrolyte, sometimes with a partial success. However, I would strongly discourage such efforts. Safety factors notwsithstanding, the biggest concern would be the case cracking open due to stress or improper re-resealing, thereby allowing electrolyte to spill and damage apparatus. <> Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp. - Uniquex Corp. - Viatran Corp. <> UUCP: {allegra|ames|boulder|decvax|rutgers|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry <> VOICE: 716/688-1231, 716/773-1700 {att|hplabs|utzoo}!/ <> FAX: 716/741-9635, 716/773-2488 "Have you hugged your cat today?"
john@stiatl.UUCP (John DeArmond) (04/25/89)
In article <2225@letni.LawNet.Com> doug@letni.LawNet.Com (Doug Davis) writes: >I Recently obtained a nice very used UPS that was broken, after repairing >the machine I was able to get the charging and inverting circuits working >again. My problem lies in the batteries that it uses are Gel Cells which >a couple of them will only hold a partial charge. But they do hold a >charge. Two of them hold about 2/3rds normal voltage, and 2 more about >half and one barely holds a volt. These are 6v gel cells. My question >is, is there any way, like shocking NiCads, to recover full capacity >of these gel cells. Doug, Depending on the cell type, you may have good to moderate luck rejuvinating a sealed lead-acid battery. I have had very good luck with the Gates type starved electrolyte battery and somewhat less good luck with the true gel-cell gelled electrolyte batteries. The technique described below should be used on batteries that are considered a writeoff because destruction is possible. Also note that the procedure is rather violent to the battery. Wear a face shield and gloves in case the battery ruptures. In either case, you must work on one cell at a time. The Gates batteries are easy since they are assembled from individual cells. Gel-cells are a bit more difficult. The cell connections are generally sealed inside the battery. I usually carefully drill thru the top of the case to each cell connector. Then use a nail or a piece of #10 copper wire to make contact. The failure modes seem to be either from overcharging which dries the battery out or sulphation which results from extended periods of discharge. And of course, some batteries will shed enough plate materials to short. I consider these to be unrecoverable. In the case of Gates batteries, dryout is easy to treat. If you remove the outer metal jacket, you will find a rubber septum between the terminals which serves as a pressure relief. Remove the septum and inject some distilled water to replace lost moisture. I have yet to work with a dried-out gel-cell so I'm not sure what would be involved in rehydrating one. In any event, about 90% of batteries I've worked with have suffered from sulphation. The symptoms of sulphation are that the battery will not take charging current and in fact will withstand high charging voltage, often 12 volts or more. The treatment involves several cycles of heavy reverse current charges, each followed by heavy forward current. I use a high quality 15 volt, 50 amp lab power supply but most any current limiting PX will do. Again, this must be done one cell at a time. First apply full reverse voltage to the cell. It will initially withstand the full reverse potential but as the process continues, the current draw will rise rapidly. I generally end this phase when the current is increasing very rapidly. Next reverse the polarity so charging voltage is applied in the forward direction. The cell may be sluggish in the beginning but soon it will start taking a charge. Allow heavy current to flow for up to half a minute or until you detect heat from the cell. Next short the cell thru an ammeter if possible. The current will spike and then decrease to zero. At this stage, cycle through the process several times until the current is immediate and heavy in both directions. At this point, a charge at a rate of about 0.1C should be started and continued until the voltage rises to about 2.1 volts. When this is complete, work on that cell is complete. Apply the treatment to the others in the battery and then apply a current-limited (about 0.1C) high voltage sufficient to drive the 0.1C current across the whole battery as an equalizing charge. Be sure and monitor the temperature of the cell while doing this procedure. The cell will heat rapidly as soon as heavy current draw starts. The temperature should not ever be allowed to rise above what is comfortable to hold in your hand. Using this technique, I estimate that about 90% of the gates-type batteries are recoverable and perhaps 60% of gel-cells respond. I have noted a pecularity of recovered cells that should be mentioned. These cells re- sulphate rapidly if allowed to sit discharged. I use a set of recovered Gates batteries in a homemade 2 meter rig. If I use the radio every day and charge the batteries promptly when discharged, they endure very well. On the other hand, if I let them sit discharged for a week, I have to zap 'em again. Strange characteristic. Even with gel-cells, the treatment is worth the effort. At worst, you throw away an unrecoverable battery. At best, you get a functioning battery for only the cost of several hours' work. John -- John De Armond, WD4OQC | Manual? ... What manual ?!? Sales Technologies, Inc. Atlanta, GA | This is Unix, My son, You ...!gatech!stiatl!john **I am the NRA** | just GOTTA Know!!!