cfogg@blake.acs.washington.edu (Chad Fogg) (07/10/89)
To quote a recent article:
Little more than two years after the Victor Company of Japan---
better known in the US as JVC----unveiled Super VHS to the world,
its vision of the future of home video recording remains little
more than a curiosity, a toy for video buffs who absolutely must
possess the latest in video technology. .. BUT WITH FEWER THAN
ONE IN 100 VCR buyers opting for S-VHS decks and less than three
percent of camcorder buyers shooting for the format, it's time to
consider whether [S-VHS] .. is this generation's Beta. (1)
Levine summarizes the reasons for S-VHS's unpopularity: lack of prerecorded
software and significantly higher prices. Causes are: An uncommitted Holly-
wood, VCR suppliers' reluctance to lower prices because of the higher profits
they make on S-VHS machines, and an unaggressive advertizing campaign.
Only %1 ?!? I'm not all than keen on the technical aspect of video, but
why didn't JVC use Upper Side Band techniques? Simply add a fully Forward
and Backwards compatible band in the extra bandwidth afforded by the new
tape formulas. You know, this business:
________________ _____
_ / \ / \
/ \ / \ / \
___/ \__/ \_/ \______
Chroma Luminance Upper Band (added information)
Then you piece the two parts together---like the 1/2" analog prototype
HDTV VCR's that split the signal into four separate bands in order to
sqeeze it all in.
(1) Martine Levine, "S-VHS: What's Taking So Long?," _Video_Review_,
July, 1989, p. 21.
No flames, please. I claim no special knowledge into video technology.
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UUCP: cfogg%blake.acs.washington.edu@uw-beaver.UUCPmrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) (07/11/89)
In article <2722@blake.acs.washington.edu> cfogg@blake.acs.washington.edu (Chad Fogg) writes: >To quote a recent article: > it's time to > consider whether [S-VHS] .. is this generation's Beta. (1) >(1) Martine Levine, "S-VHS: What's Taking So Long?," _Video_Review_, >July, 1989, p. 21. I think that S-VHS is this generation's Beta, but in a different sense than the author intends. I've played a fair amount with my S-VHS deck (Magnavox 9770) now, and it seems that it performs comparably to Beta. Of course, it has a dreadful user interface. 99.9% of what you want to do *has* to be done with on-screen menus. It doesn't even show the tape counter on the VCR's LED's! Any change in tape operation (between play, search, FF, REW, stop) involves truly amazing kerchunks and clicks...and it takes forever to do anything. But!! It gives a picture that is *just as good* as my 1980 Betamax!! So, by 1998 I may be able to buy a VHS as good as my 1989 ED Beta. I can't wait. Mark Crispin / 6158 Lariat Loop NE / Bainbridge Island, WA 98110-2020 mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU / MRC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil / (206) 842-2385 Atheist & Proud / 450cc Rebel pilot -- a step up from 250cc's!!! tabesaserarenakerebanaranakattarashii...kisha no kisha ga kisha de kisha-shita sumomo mo momo, momo mo momo, momo ni mo iroiro aru uraniwa ni wa niwa, niwa ni wa niwa niwatori ga iru
flash@lopez.UUCP (Gary Bourgois) (07/11/89)
Well I for one hope that the format does not die, as it is quite a bit superior to "regular" VHS. I have been into VIDEO for over ten years, with both UMATIC and VHS, and I find my JVC HRS-8000U a real joy to use. With it, and a Panasonic PVS-350 camcorder I have edited some video productions that look better than what I was getting with a Panasonic 96OO Umatic system I was working with four years ago. The system holds up reasonably to the third generation, though after that, I would have to give UMATIC the edge, but only because of Chroma noise... SVHS still has better resolution. I am rather disgusted though with the whole outcome of SVHS... Now I know how the BETA people felt (I teetered back in 1978, and finally went VHS instead of BETA, or I would have been a BETA die hard, I am sure...] The problem *IS* the price. When $199 will buy a standard VHS deck at GOOFY LENNIES, who in their right mind would spend a KILLOBUCK on a VCR. (Having spent over a grand on my first two speed VHS, I think the SVHS machines are a STEAL. SO price of the machine is a factor. PRICE OF THE TAPES is another factor. I have HUNDREDS of regular VHS tapes, but only about 25 SVHS tapes. I use them strictly for camera recordings, and editing. I have one SVHS tape for my FAVORITE MTV videos in HI FI stereo. (in one year I have managed to collect five or so....) I just can not justify spending three times for SVHS blanks to use them for movies and time shift. BUT WHEN I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING SHINE with the same quality as the original, SVHS can not be beat. I like the clean assemble and insert edits on the JVC, just as good as UMATIC... I also use the maching as an AUDIO deck, though one does not need SVHS for this application, as the HIFI audio is available on many regular VHS machines at half the price... WILL SVHS survive? I think it will, since the format has made significant inroads into the Professional Market, where it is an obvious successor to 3/4". There will be machines made for the home market for a few more years, but if the prices do not come down, I think this segment will dry up. Professional SVHS machines are far more expensive than home units. If really high quality SVHS home machines were available for $4OO - $5OO, it would be difficult to justify the $25OO+ that a professional machine with similar features brings in. For this reason, I believe the prices of home SVHS machines will remain artificially high, perhaps killing off this market segment, meaning that those of us who are addicted to it will have to pay even higher prices (as the serious videophiles did when the only option was the SONY VO-16OO UMATIC) Ah well, all is fair in love, war, and BUSINESS... -- | Gary Bourgois flash@lopez.UUCP ..rutgers!mailrus!sharkey!lopez!flash | | Great White North UPLink, Marquette Michigan | | NATIONWIDE AMATEUR RADIO (1500 watts on 3950) --- nightly after 0200z | |___________________WB8EOH - The Eccentric Old Hippie____________________|
dalka@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (kenneth.j.dalka) (07/11/89)
>>To quote a recent article: >> it's time to >> consider whether [S-VHS] .. is this generation's Beta. (1) >>(1) Martine Levine, "S-VHS: What's Taking So Long?," _Video_Review_, >>July, 1989, p. 21. > > But!! It gives a picture that is *just as good* as my 1980 Betamax!! > So, by 1998 I may be able to buy a VHS as good as my 1989 ED Beta. > I guess I don't understand this. I have a S-VHS deck and I love it. The picture quality is MUCH better than VHS (when its recording S-VHS). I've never has a beta deck but friends of mine who have one say the picture is about the same or slightly better but no where near the difference I see. I also don't really see why more people don't buy them. You can get one now for a little more than $700 which puts it cheaper than a lot of VHS machines. True, there are no pre-recorded movies yet (maybe never) but the recordings I get off the air make it worth having. The tapes are expensive but I'm not a saver. The only movies I save are for the kids and I make them on standard VHS tapes (good enough for them). I have two S-VHS tapes. One for me and one for the wife. SHe records her soaps everyday and I use mine for star-trek. I used to record in 2 hour mode to get a better picture, now I use 6 hour in S-VHS mode and it looks better and I can fit more on a tape (in case I'm too busy one week to watch what I've recorded). -- Ken Dalka (Bell Labs) att!ihlpz!dalka IH 4H-416 (312) 979-6930
phil@diablo.amd.com (Phil Ngai) (07/12/89)
In article <692@lopez.UUCP> flash@lopez.UUCP (Gary Bourgois) writes: |The problem *IS* the price. When $199 will buy a standard VHS deck at |GOOFY LENNIES, who in their right mind would spend a KILLOBUCK on a VCR. I have seen Japanese S-VHS VCRs for $600. That's a very reasonable premium over the equivalent quality without S-VHS. Remember, you get Hi-Fi and a bunch of other goodies too. The problem is most consumers don't give a rat's ass about quality. Lots of people won't even fork over the bucks for Hi-Fi! They are hopeless and you are wasting your time to worry about them. Anyway, I don't care if S-VHS catches on. I have mine, and unless it breaks, that's all I care about. My VCR has compatibility mode for sharing tapes with friends. For time-shifting, I don't need compatibility. For rental, I have Laser-Discs. I don't expect to ever be able to rent S-VHS tapes nor do I want to. It's too bad they couldn't have done S-VHS in a compatible way, like they did Hi-Fi. That's the only way a rental tape market could ever have evolved. The way it is now, it will never happen, even if S-VHS achieved say a 25% market penetration. Anyway, I'd much rather see the LD rental market evolve. |PRICE OF THE |TAPES is another factor. I have HUNDREDS of regular VHS tapes, but only |about 25 SVHS tapes. I use them strictly for camera recordings, and Just get a good quality VHS tape (I like BASF) and drill the hole. It works fine. -- Phil Ngai, phil@diablo.amd.com {uunet,decwrl,ucbvax}!amdcad!phil "The government is not your mother."
gordonl@microsoft.UUCP (Gordon Letwin) (07/12/89)
Re: the slow adaption of S-VHS: one of the problems with SVHS is that it's an incompatible format; older machines can't play it. VHS HiFi was adapted quickly because, from a video rental store point of view: 1) the tapes didn't cost more to buy, and 2) all customers could use them, benefit or not. Now, say that you own a video store now, and you're considering buying some SVHS tapes. 1) they cost more - tape formulation more expensive, and 2) only a few of your customers can play them, and 3) for every SVHS customer who rents one, you can expect 4 VHS customers to rent them out of ignorance, then demand their money back, which costs you loss of use of this expensive tape, employee time, and you don't even get any revenue! 4) even if (3) is somehow controlled (and yes, just ASKING folks if they have SVHS won't work - most don't know. And just saying that "don't know == NO" won't completely cover it, because there'll be lotsa bozos who insist that they have SVHS when they dont... ) Well, even ignoring #3, you've tied up your money and shelf space on a tape which may sit there due to lack of potential customers, while other customers are going else where to rent that hot seller in VHS... the alternative is to buy it in VHS, and dispense with all of these problems. Considering these market forces, I expect that SVHS will be a long slow grind, if it ever makes it. If it's marketed cheap enough that most people buy it anyhow - even if it does them no good, then when you get 80% penetration a video store would start to carry the tapes. Hold your breath... So as for SVHS being the new "beta" - it's worse, since beta tapes didn't cost more and there was relatively little confusion about whether or not your machine could play them. gordon letwin
neal@lynx.uucp (Neal Woodall) (07/12/89)
In article <692@lopez.UUCP> flash@lopez.UUCP (Gary Bourgois) writes: >WILL SVHS survive? I think it will, since the format has made significant >inroads into the Professional Market, where it is an obvious successor to >3/4". What about Sony's BetaCam 1/2 professional systems? I have seen many professional users of video equipment (TV stations, post-production houses, etc) that use BetaCam, and only a few that use S-VHS. Neal
roc@sequent.UUCP (Ron Christian) (07/12/89)
Not to mention pre-recorded competition from Laser. Ron
roc@sequent.UUCP (Ron Christian) (07/12/89)
In article <26267@amdcad.AMD.COM> phil@diablo.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) writes: >I have seen Japanese S-VHS VCRs for $600. That's a very reasonable >premium over the equivalent quality without S-VHS. Remember, you get >Hi-Fi and a bunch of other goodies too. I have a question. People are going to ask me this, and I want to provide the correct answer, so don't laugh, ok? Ok. These cheap S-VHS decks. How's the image quality? Is it as noticeably better vs. standard VHS as the high priced decks? If not, what's the degradation? I.E., say I had a new $450 VHS deck and went and got one of those new $600 S-VHS decks. So I have a mid range VHS and an absolutely bottom-of-the- line S-VHS deck. What kind of difference am I going to see? The reason I ask is because of the HQ fiasco. In some decks it appeared to be an improvement, and in others it appeared to be a marketing gimmick. Is S-VHS tied to some standard of image quality (what IS "image quality", anyway??) or does it mean that the manufacturer has added the minimum number of componants in order to be able to slap "SUPER VHS!!!" all over the box? Or both? Ron
tmurphy@wpi.wpi.edu (Tom [Chris] Murphy) (07/12/89)
In article <26267@amdcad.AMD.COM> phil@diablo.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) writes: > >Just get a good quality VHS tape (I like BASF) and drill the hole. >It works fine. > Did you actually manage to pull this off? We tried at our campus studio and found the results to be horrendous. The information our engineer came up with was that the friction noise of a standard VHS tape was in the frequency range of the SVHS signal, distorting it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas C. Murphy Worcester Polytechnic Institute CAD Lab Internet: tmurphy@wpi.wpi.edu tmurphy@zaphod.wpi.edu BITNET: TMURPHY@WPI BIX: tmurphy CompuServe: 73766,130
wiz@xroads.UUCP (Mike Carter) (07/12/89)
As far as VCR picture quality is concerned I'm quite happy to say that I made the wise choice and purchsed a Mitsubishi (recently on the market) T.V. and accompanying VCR. The picture quality from these two in tandem is 400% better than the old FISHERS and RCA decks I owned previously. ALthough I'm no VIDEO or AUDIOPHILE, I do enjoy good quality reproduction in my tapes.....the $580 I dropped on the VCR was and is quite worth it.. but I just can't see purchasing these features; PIP (Picture in Picture) * S-VHS HI-FI * WHen you have cable..this feature is practically useless The S-VHS might be high quality stuff, but like someone said; "Who wants to spend a KILOBUCK?" Same goes with the HI-FI....for pete's sake...I *HAVE* a stereo and the two extra head on the VCR means 6x10^23 more KILOBUCKS in repair costs when it's time to replace it....just plug the output from your VCR or T.V. into the AUX on your stereo and you can turn your brain into jello pudding just as easily. WHY ONLY 1 in 100 VCR buyers purchase S-VHS ? A: Because the other 99 invested in computers. ;-) -- ============================================================================= = Mike Carter N7GYX, Phoenix AZ| Q: Why did the Chicken cross the road ? = = hplabs!hp-sdd!crash!xroads!wiz| A: To ESCape the Main Menu . = =============================================================================
roc@sequent.UUCP (Ron Christian) (07/12/89)
In article <5833@lynx.UUCP> neal@lynx.UUCP (Neal Woodall) writes: >In article <692@lopez.UUCP> flash@lopez.UUCP (Gary Bourgois) writes: > >>WILL SVHS survive? I think it will, since the format has made significant >>inroads into the Professional Market, where it is an obvious successor to >>3/4". Sorry. Not in a million years. Remember, folks, we're talking CONSUMER electronics here. Broadcast stuff is entirely different. >What about Sony's BetaCam 1/2 professional systems? I have seen many >professional users of video equipment (TV stations, post-production >houses, etc) that use BetaCam, and only a few that use S-VHS. Do *any* TV stations use S-VHS??? I personally doubt it, unless it's student run. You may be mistaking MII (which uses a cartridge that looks the same) with S-VHS. Ron
watson@shinobu.sgi.com (David M. Watson, Jr.) (07/12/89)
I routinely drill TDK E-HG tapes for S-VHS, and the results are excellent, even after dozens of plays. My roommate has tested other brands of non-S tape and no tape type worked better for S-VHS. However, there is one slight annoyance, most noticeable when taping black and white movies with a drilled non-S tape: the picture is excellent, but just slightly darker than the original. That is, the highlights on the tape (white) are a less bright white. But the dark areas, and everything about color material, looks just fine. Interesting that the effect is more noticeable in black and white. I haven't checked to see if the same problem exists on a true S-VHS tape. -David Watson Silicon Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA. [ To Jerry Lotto: hi! :-) ]
phil@diablo.amd.com (Phil Ngai) (07/13/89)
In article <3184@wpi.wpi.edu> tmurphy@wpi.wpi.edu (Tom [Chris] Murphy) writes: |In article <26267@amdcad.AMD.COM> phil@diablo.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) writes: |>Just get a good quality VHS tape (I like BASF) and drill the hole. |>It works fine. | |Did you actually manage to pull this off? We tried at our campus studio and |found the results to be horrendous. The information our engineer came up with |was that the friction noise of a standard VHS tape was in the frequency range |of the SVHS signal, distorting it. Yes, let me tell you what I did. When I first got my S-VHS VCR, I bought two of every different kind of S-VHS tape I could find for comparison purposes. It ended up that there didn't seem to be a lot of differences visible to my eye. Then I tried drilling BASF regular VHS. That worked out ok and has been my standard medium since. I have maybe 3 dozen trouble free recordings now. How many tapes did you try and what brand was it? -- Phil Ngai, phil@diablo.amd.com {uunet,decwrl,ucbvax}!amdcad!phil "The government is not your mother."
phil@diablo.amd.com (Phil Ngai) (07/13/89)
In article <18565@sequent.UUCP> roc@crg2.UUCP (Ron Christian) writes: |Ok. These cheap S-VHS decks. How's the image quality? Is it as |noticeably better vs. standard VHS as the high priced decks? If |not, what's the degradation? I would expect that you will find variations from brand to brand in S-VHS as you do with VHS. Some makers will do a better job than others. I've read all the test reports I can find and you often seen luminance S/N ratios which range from low 40s to high 40s, some even into the 50s. You don't often see useful bandwidth information, however. In any case, this seems similar to the situation you have with test reports on regular VHS machines. One other data point is that one of the rags had a test panel rate various machines, and I think Panasonic came in as one of (if not the) best machines, and it is a relabeled Panasonic that I saw for $600. I've read that the S-VHS circuitry is not expensive and should only add about 10% to the manufacturing cost of a machine. -- Phil Ngai, phil@diablo.amd.com {uunet,decwrl,ucbvax}!amdcad!phil "The government is not your mother."
may@richsun.UUCP (Mark Yedinak) (07/13/89)
In article <2727@blake.acs.washington.edu> mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) writes: >In article <2722@blake.acs.washington.edu> cfogg@blake.acs.washington.edu (Chad Fogg) writes: >>To quote a recent article: >> it's time to >> consider whether [S-VHS] .. is this generation's Beta. (1) >>(1) Martine Levine, "S-VHS: What's Taking So Long?," _Video_Review_, >>July, 1989, p. 21. > >than the author intends. I've played a fair amount with my S-VHS deck >(Magnavox 9770) now, and it seems that it performs comparably to Beta. > >Of course, it has a dreadful user interface. 99.9% of what you want >to do *has* to be done with on-screen menus. It doesn't even show the >tape counter on the VCR's LED's! Any change in tape operation >(between play, search, FF, REW, stop) involves truly amazing kerchunks >and clicks...and it takes forever to do anything. > >Mark Crispin / 6158 Lariat Loop NE / Bainbridge Island, WA 98110-2020 Hate to say it but it sounds like you bought the wrong model. I bought a Mitsubishi HS-U70 and it works great. It is easy to use, very *user* friendly and the picture, as well as the sound, is fantastic. IMHO, you bought a lemmon. Most everything can be done from the on screen menus, however, everything can also be done manually. Both the screen and the machine will display any of the information that you want to see. All operations are clean, quick and silent. All in all, I love the machine. As another side line, S-VHS may be todays BETA, however there is one major difference. It is fully compatible with normal VHS tapes. You can record in VHS if you like and you can play any VHS tape. I think the industry will come around to S-VHS eventually. After all, the picture is far supior to normal VHS. _________________________________________________________________ | /// | | Mark A. Yedinak /// "Never take life too | | uunet!richsun!may or /// seriously, you never | | may@richsun.UUCP /// get out of it alive!" | | /// | -----------------------------------------------------------------
behera@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Narayana Behera) (07/14/89)
Hi Folks,
We had a very informative discussion on the position of the S-VHS format
in the last few days. I am happy to realize that my decision to buy the JVC
HRS-5000U, the "newest" of JVC's Super VHS's is well supported. I would thank
all the netters who responded with their personal opinion on the "VHS/S-VHS
Dillema" which I posted a few weeks ago. I bought a Pioneer LDP 3070 along
with this JVC 5000 and I find the later's picture and sound quality quite in
par with that of the Laser Disc Player. My only complain about the S-VHS is
the differntial cost of S-VHS tapes over regular VHS tapes. I was testing the
recording capability of the JVC-5000 with a TDK S-VHS tape by dubbing a Laser
Disc on to it. When played with the S-Video connector on the TV, it is diffi-
cult to tell it apart from the Pioneer-3070.
Now I have another question lurking in my mind. What will happen to the Laser
Disc and S-VHS format when the HDTV will be introduced ? Since both of these
deliver nearly 425 lines of horizontal resolution I guess the industry will
come up with new formats for VHS and LD, and some more mega-bucks to be with
this technology, right ?mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) (07/14/89)
In article <18579@sequent.UUCP> roc@crg2.UUCP (Ron Christian) writes: >In article <5833@lynx.UUCP> neal@lynx.UUCP (Neal Woodall) writes: >>In article <692@lopez.UUCP> flash@lopez.UUCP (Gary Bourgois) writes: >> >>>WILL SVHS survive? I think it will, since the format has made significant >>>inroads into the Professional Market, where it is an obvious successor to >>>3/4". > >Sorry. Not in a million years. Remember, folks, we're talking CONSUMER >electronics here. Broadcast stuff is entirely different. > >>What about Sony's BetaCam 1/2 professional systems? I have seen many >>professional users of video equipment (TV stations, post-production >>houses, etc) that use BetaCam, and only a few that use S-VHS. > >Do *any* TV stations use S-VHS??? I personally doubt it, unless it's >student run. You may be mistaking MII (which uses a cartridge that looks >the same) with S-VHS. I've checked around, and some of the *industrial* users of 3/4" are taking a good look at ED Beta as a replacement for 3/4". The main things against ED Beta for this are: (1) price -- professional ED Beta gear is not a price win over 3/4". (2) timebase stability -- even ED Beta doesn't have the timebase stability of 3/4", although it has twice the horizontal resolution. However, in industry timebase stability is the name of the game. (3) continuing questions about the long-term life of the format. S-VHS is a consumer format, period. The only industrial customers for S-VHS are likely to be cable TV public access producers. MII doesn't seem to have caught on the way Betacam has for broadcast users. I've heard of a few cable TV public access producers using it, that's about it. Mark Crispin / 6158 Lariat Loop NE / Bainbridge Island, WA 98110-2020 mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU / MRC@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil / (206) 842-2385 Atheist & Proud / 450cc Rebel pilot -- a step up from 250cc's!!! tabesaserarenakerebanaranakattarashii...kisha no kisha ga kisha de kisha-shita sumomo mo momo, momo mo momo, momo ni mo iroiro aru uraniwa ni wa niwa, niwa ni wa niwa niwatori ga iru
newkirk@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Scott Newkirk RCE) (07/14/89)
In article <18579@sequent.UUCP> roc@crg2.UUCP (Ron Christian) writes: >Do *any* TV stations use S-VHS??? I personally doubt it, unless it's >student run. You may be mistaking MII (which uses a cartridge that looks >the same) with S-VHS. > Ron *** YES *** a S.F. Bay area UHF station KOFY CH 20 uses S-VHS for there news ENG cameras ! ******************* Genccrq va n jbeyq V arire znqr ************* Work: newkirk@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov :: Home: PRODIGY; SSDJ77A (OR sun!ames!pioneer!newkirk) :: 19400 Sorenson #208 "Scott who?, He said WHAT?!! :: Cupertino CA. 95014
roc@sequent.UUCP (Ron Christian) (07/15/89)
In article <2510@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> newkirk@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov.UUCP (Scott Newkirk RCE) writes: #In article <18579@sequent.UUCP> roc@crg2.UUCP (Ron Christian) writes: #>Do *any* TV stations use S-VHS??? I personally doubt it, unless it's #>student run. You may be mistaking MII (which uses a cartridge that looks #>the same) with S-VHS. #> Ron # #*** YES *** a S.F. Bay area UHF station KOFY CH 20 uses S-VHS for there #news ENG cameras ! How do you know that? MII looks mechanically just like VHS. How could you tell? Ron
rusty@hodge.UUCP (Rusty H. Hodge) (07/18/89)
In article <5833@lynx.UUCP>, neal@lynx.uucp (Neal Woodall) writes: > In article <692@lopez.UUCP> flash@lopez.UUCP (Gary Bourgois) writes: >WILL SVHS survive? I think it will, since the format has made significant >inroads into the Professional Market, where it is an obvious successor to ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >3/4". > > What about Sony's BetaCam 1/2 professional systems? I have seen many > professional users of video equipment (TV stations, post-production > houses, etc) that use BetaCam, and only a few that use S-VHS. Betacam is used by most professional Broadcasters. Betacam == Broadcast Quality. SVHS == Industrial Video quality. (e.g. Local Cable, Training Tapes, etc.) -- Rusty "No Bugs" Hodge, 1588 N. Batavia St. Orange, CA 92667 Tel (714) 974-6300 rusty@hodge.cts.com [uunet zardoz vdelta crash]!hodge!rusty FAX (714) 921-8038
newkirk@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Scott Newkirk RCE) (07/18/89)
In article <18717@sequent.UUCP> roc@crg2.UUCP (Ron Christian) writes: >#*** YES *** a S.F. Bay area UHF station KOFY CH 20 uses S-VHS for there >#news ENG cameras ! > >How do you know that? MII looks mechanically just like VHS. How >could you tell? > > > Ron Thare was an article in the local newspaper about the new news department at ch 20 including interviews with the news manager of the station. Scott ******************* Genccrq va n jbeyq V arire znqr ************* Work: newkirk@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov :: Home: PRODIGY; SSDJ77A (OR sun!ames!pioneer!newkirk) :: 19400 Sorenson #208 "Scott who?, He said WHAT?!! :: Cupertino CA. 95014