henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (08/21/89)
Anybody know of a good reference on PC and AT hardware and bus structure? I don't want a maintenance manual for a particular box, or a babytalk introduction aimed at semi-illiterate MBAs, or anything containing the word "software" (much less "MSDOS"). -- V7 /bin/mail source: 554 lines.| Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology 1989 X.400 specs: 2200+ pages. | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu
mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) (08/22/89)
What you want is the "Technical Reference for the Personal Computer AT". It's part of IBM's Hardware Reference Library. I've heard that it's very har hard to get, but bootleg copies are widely available in the orient. It includes a complete set of circuit diagrams for the AT.
wiz@xroads.UUCP (Mike Carter) (08/29/89)
RE: Obtaining a Technical Reference guide for the IBM AT. HARD???? Come on! They' are WIDELY available! I called IBM here locally at their sales offices in Phoenix ..got a price list..now I have all three books. But the price tag is EXHORBITANT. The whole schmear cost around $700 from IBM. It's **** NOT **** the availability..it's the price! -Mike -- ============================================================================= = Mike Carter N7GYX, Phoenix AZ| Q: Why did the Chicken cross the road ? = = hplabs!hp-sdd!crash!xroads!wiz| A: To ESCape the Main Menu . = =============================================================================
phil@diablo.amd.com (Phil Ngai) (08/30/89)
Michael Slater's Microprocessor Report also has a collection of IBM's AT patents. They might be cheaper if you got them from the patent office but the price is not unreasonable and buying it from MR will probably save enough time that it really is the cheaper way to go. Frankly, I think IBM's tech refs are pretty lousy documentation. They are adequate for getting a schematic of the AT but there's a lot of missing stuff like PAL equations and theory of operations or even useful signal descriptions, much less timing. Of course, having botched up the AT bus as a standard, IBM then proceeded to abandon it. Talk about anti-social. -- Phil Ngai, phil@diablo.amd.com {uunet,decwrl,ucbvax}!amdcad!phil "Today surgeons are highly respected but they were once just grave robbers."