john@stiatl.UUCP (John DeArmond) (08/29/89)
barry@hprmokg.HP.COM (Barry Fowler) writes: >The electronics industry doesn't plate traces on pc boards. They etch >the copper off already plated boards. >Take it off, take it off.... Not true. While most low and medium production boards are etched, high volume boards are quite often made from an additive process. Back to the point.. Plated-through holes are done BEFORE etching. The board is drilled on an NC drill. Next the holes are coated with a conductive substance and then the board is plated. Metal is deposited on top of the conductive coating. Then the board traces are applied and etched. While the process is somewhat tedious and particular regarding chemistry control, it is well within the capabilities a well-equipped prototype or hobby shop. Kepro, among others, sells desktop equipment and chemicals. Check your EEG or EBG for an address or phone. John -- John De Armond, WD4OQC | Manual? ... What manual ?!? Sales Technologies, Inc. Atlanta, GA | This is Unix, My son, You ...!gatech!stiatl!john **I am the NRA** | just GOTTA Know!!!
vince@mplvax.EDU (Vince Pavlicek) (08/30/89)
In article <6684@stiatl.UUCP> john@stiatl.UUCP (John DeArmond) writes: >Back to the point.. > >While the process is somewhat tedious and particular regarding chemistry >control, it is well within the capabilities a well-equipped prototype >or hobby shop. Kepro, among others, sells desktop equipment and chemicals. >Check your EEG or EBG for an address or phone. > Last etcher we bought from Keppro (smallest one they make) was over $600!!! Thru plating is tedious, chemically particular and expensive unless you are doing a lot of boards. We do 10 to 30 double- sided, non-plated-thru-hole prototypes a year and go outside for production. 0 O vince pavlicek o development engineer marine physical lab u.c. san diego vince@mplvax.ucsd.edu || vince@mplvax.nosc.mil
barry@hprmokg.HP.COM (Barry Fowler) (09/01/89)
john@stiatl.UUCP (John DeArmond) states: (me) >>The electronics industry doesn't plate traces on pc boards. They etch >>the copper off already plated boards. > >>Take it off, take it off.... > (john) >Not true. While most low and medium production boards are etched, high >volume boards are quite often made from an additive process. It is possible to use an additive process. I am curious what you call "high volume", however. I have worked in many manufacturing entities and with vendors that make what I would consider "high volume" boards, one such vendor makes them for IBM and they ALL etch copper from the boards. They do not use additive processes. In my company, we have come in contact with many OEM suppliers and, to date, in my 12 years in "the industry", I have yet to have seen one that deposits copper traces on printed circuit material. Is this because we use multilayer boards? Is it more common only with double-sided boards? Maybe I'm missing something... Barry
phil@ingr.com (Phil Johnson) (09/01/89)
In article <6684@stiatl.UUCP> john@stiatl.UUCP (John DeArmond) writes: >Plated-through holes are done BEFORE etching. The board is drilled on >an NC drill. Next the holes are coated with a conductive substance and >then the board is plated. Metal is deposited on top of the conductive >coating. Then the board traces are applied and etched. It is true that low quantity production houses may use the removal process, but as the cost of this method increases (cost of copper, toxic chemical handling, etc) even low quantity houses are switching to deposition methods. Briefly the deposition process consists of four steps: NOTE: I use the term VIA for both true VIAs and hole. 1. Coating a substrate (fiberglass, pheno, ceramic, or whatever) with a photo- resist (either positive or negative - production house's choice). 2. Photoprocessing the trace layer. This is the same as in the etch process. A pictue of the trace layer is made on the photoresist. Once the layer of processed only the traces, etc are on the board. These areas serve as the receptor of the next step. 3. A conductive material is deposited onto the receptor material. 4. The layers are then bonded together and the external layers and VIAs are processed. The main deviation from the description is in step 1. Some houses silkscreen the patterns onto the substrate with receptor material rather than do the photoprocessing on the substrate. > >While the process is somewhat tedious and particular regarding chemistry >control, it is well within the capabilities a well-equipped prototype >or hobby shop. Kepro, among others, sells desktop equipment and chemicals. >Check your EEG or EBG for an address or phone. > >John De Armond, WD4OQC | Manual? ... What manual ?!? >Sales Technologies, Inc. Atlanta, GA | This is Unix, My son, You >...!gatech!stiatl!john **I am the NRA** | just GOTTA Know!!! The Kepro lab is not what I would call an inexpensive hobby shop system. I haven't looked at it for several years but believe it cost several thousand dollars to have it expanded to process anything but low density two-sided boards. I have made many two-sided boards at home, but would not try multilayered boards or plated-through Holes. The plating chemistry is more than my than my CONVIENCE FACTOR can handle, so I send this type work outside. There is small prototype houses that will do this work cheaper than it can be done at home. -- Philip E. Johnson UUCP: usenet!ingr!b3!sys_7a!phil MY words, VOICE: (205) 772-2497 MY opinion!