dylan@cs.washington.edu (Dylan McNamee) (11/06/89)
I have this burning desire to modify my CD player, and maybe learn something along the way. I am in the process of replacing the op-amp section with the POOGE-4 mods. The Audio Amateur's advice for the adventurous is to add another power supply to the player (A magnavox.) I am going to use the same transformer, and split the supply from rectification on down. Here's my question: The current power supply goes like this: Transformer -> rectifier -> large cap (150uF) -> regulator (78M15CT) -> small cap (47uF) -> 15V out. If I want to improve the quality of this set-up, should I change the topology at all? Can I just make the Caps bigger? Any other advice? Well, that's all-- Oh, does anyone have advice about good books on subjects like this, and possibly audio electronics as well? thanks, dylan mcnamee dylan@cs.washington.edu
myers@hpfcdj.HP.COM (Bob Myers) (11/08/89)
>I have this burning desire to modify my CD player, and maybe learn >something along the way. I am in the process of replacing the op-amp >section with the POOGE-4 mods. The Audio Amateur's advice for the >adventurous is to add another power supply to the player (A magnavox.) I'm not familiar with the player or the mods in question, but the reason for adding the second supply is likely to avoid the potential problem of the left and right channels coupling through the supply (i.e., a sudden increase in the current drawn by the left channel circuits causes a drop in the supply to the right channel, so affecting its output. >I am going to use the same transformer, and split the supply from >rectification on down. Here's my question: The current power supply >goes like this: Transformer -> rectifier -> large cap (150uF) -> >regulator (78M15CT) -> small cap (47uF) -> 15V out. Some things to check here: does the transformer have sufficient current capability to handle the second supply? Remember, the total current required will be greater with the second regulator, etc. added, due to losses in that regulator. Suggestions: Increasing the "large cap" slightly might help a little, but these IC regulators usually do a reasonably good job of getting rid of the slight ripple left. Still, a larger filter cap can't hurt, up to the limit imposed by the ability of the front end of the supply to handle the inrush current. In addition, I'd add a small cap - perhaps an 0.1 uF ceramic - across the 47 uF on the regulator's output. This doesn't appear to make too much sense, until you realize that most electrolytic caps - and I'm assuming that the 47 uF is a small aluminum or tantalum (somewhat better than Al) electrolytic - don't really appear very capacitive at high frequencies. Adding a small cap, keeping the leads as short as possible, can do wonders for keeping high-frequency noise off the regulator's output. You'd also be well-advised to place a diode - practically any part good for a few amps - "backwards" from the regulator's output to input. (In other words, the diode's anode - "+" side - on the regulator's output.) This will help prevent damage to the regulator should the output line for any reason ever go higher (voltage-wise) than the input. A slightly further-out notion - you didn't mention what the rectifier looks like. If it's a cheap half-wave rectifier (a single diode), then using a full-wave "bridge" rectifer in your "new supply" (as well as the old, if possible) will reduce the ripple, as the ripple frequency is doubled and the average voltage at the input to the regulator will be higher. This mod may be beyond what's reasonable with your player. I'd suggest finding a good basic text or article on simple power-supply design and getting a good understanding of what all these parts *do* before proceeding with ANY mods. Good luck! Bob Myers KC0EW HP Graphics Tech. Div.| Opinions expressed here are not Ft. Collins, Colorado | those of my employer or any other myers%hpfcla@hplabs.hp.com | sentient life-form on this planet.
yahoo@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Kenneth L Moore) (11/09/89)
In article <9705@june.cs.washington.edu> dylan@cs.washington.edu (Dylan McNamee) writes: > >I have this burning desire to modify my CD player, and maybe learn >something along the way. Like how much it costs to replace a CD player? ;-> >Well, that's all-- Oh, does anyone have advice ... You asked so: Don't do it unless the CD is disposable. Seriously, is the CD's performance all that bad? If not, "IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT!" >dylan mcnamee >dylan@cs.washington.edu -- yahoo@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Kenneth L Moore) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Ken @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
josef@peun11.uucp (Moellers) (11/09/89)
dylan@cs.washington.edu (Dylan McNamee) writes: >Well, that's all-- Oh, does anyone have advice about good books on >subjects like this, and possibly audio electronics as well? There was a very good article in BYTE (way back before it changed into a glossy PC magazine) by Steve Ciarcia on "Understandig Linear Power Supplies" I can't remember which issue but if You can't find it, I'll dig it up. (BTW Steve now has a very good magazine called "Circuit Cellar Ink") Josef Moellers | Nixdorf Computer AG USA: uunet!philabs!linus!nixbur!mollers.pad | Dept. DX-PC !USA: mcvax!unido!nixpbe!mollers.pad | Pontanusstrasse Phone: (+49) 5251 146245 | D-4790 Paderborn