[sci.electronics] 7805 woes

dbc@tc.fluke.COM (Dan Carson) (11/07/89)

                                  ______
                                  |7805|
                       ~13Vdc     |    |   4.7Vdc
                         |        ------     |
                         v        | | |      v    _________
120V AC ---- AC adapter ----------| | |-----------|26 ohms|------
                                  V G V     |     ---------      |
                                  i n o     +-------|<-----------|
                                  n d u            K  A         Gnd
                                      t

As has been suggested, 10uF caps on the input and output of the 7805 might
fix your problem.  If that doesn't work, try a reverse-biased diode from
the output of the 7805 to ground.  I've had problems with various 3 terminal
regulators latching off.  It's usually caused by a glitch during power up
which pulls the ouput below ground.  The inductance of the relay coil might
provide just such a glitch.

Dan Carson
John Fluke Mfg.

kline@tuna.cso.uiuc.edu (Charley Kline) (11/08/89)

In various articles, various people write:
about power supplies based on 78xx regulators.


I've been slapping together 5v power supplies for years with a fair amount
of success using the following. Anyone see any room for improvement without
driving up the cost? Yes I know I can use a 723 and 2N3055 power transistors
and do better, but that also would about double the cost of this.

Oh incidentally, THANKS!! to everyone who replied to my query about
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broke and I saved a $80 service call to the local head band lighting
and sound joint. I tried to give credit to sci.electronics, but none of
the fine-arts types at the Station really comprehended what it is. :)


			                 7805
                  +-----+             +-------+
<-----B|B---------|ac  +|---+---------|in  out|-------+------> +5
      B|B         |     |   |         |  gnd  |       |
120AC B|B T1      | B1  |   =C1       +-------+       =C2
      B|B         |     |   |             |           |
<-----B|B---------|ac  -|---+-------------+-----------+------> gnd
                  +-----+


T1 -   6.3v, 1.2A secondary power transformer.
B1 -   1.5A 100v bridge rectifier.
C1 -   2000uFd 16V electolytic
C2 -   47uFd 16V electolytic

_____
Charley Kline, ATD and gadgeteer, Celebration Company at the Station Theatre
c-kline@uiuc.edu

brianr@phred.UUCP (Brian Reese) (11/10/89)

In article <1989Nov7.233936.24863@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> kline@tuna.cso.uiuc.edu (Charley Kline) writes:
:>I've been slapping together 5v power supplies for years with a fair amount
:>of success using the following. Anyone see any room for improvement without
:>driving up the cost? Yes I know I can use a 723 and 2N3055 power transistors
:>and do better, but that also would about double the cost of this.
:>
:>			                 7805
:>                  +-----+             +-------+
:><-----B|B---------|ac  +|---+---------|in  out|-------+------> +5
:>      B|B         |     |   |         |  gnd  |       |
:>120AC B|B T1      | B1  |   =C1       +-------+       =C2
:>      B|B         |     |   |             |           |
:><-----B|B---------|ac  -|---+-------------+-----------+------> gnd
:>                  +-----+
:>
:>
:>T1 -   6.3v, 1.2A secondary power transformer.
:>B1 -   1.5A 100v bridge rectifier.
:>C1 -   2000uFd 16V electolytic
:>C2 -   47uFd 16V electolytic

Looks like a good GP supply.  The only parts I would add to this would be
a reverse biased diode from the output to ground, and another from the
input to the output.  Well, maybe a 0.1uF ceramic in parallel with C1 too.

Brian


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john@anasaz.UUCP (John Moore) (11/12/89)

In article <12236@fluke.COM> dbc@tc.fluke.COM (Dan Carson) writes:
]
]                                  ______
]                                  |7805|
]                       ~13Vdc     |    |   4.7Vdc
]                         |        ------     |
]                         v        | | |      v    _________
]120V AC ---- AC adapter ----------| | |-----------|26 ohms|------
]                                  V G V     |     ---------      |
]                                  i n o     +-------|<-----------|
]                                  n d u            K  A         Gnd
]                                      t
]
]As has been suggested, 10uF caps on the input and output of the 7805 might
]fix your problem.  If that doesn't work, try a reverse-biased diode from
You may find that putting the cap on the output will cause an oscillation.
The regulator really likes to see a resistive load, and a large capacitor
on the output makes it very reactive. I have had them oscillate with
10uf on the output, but work fine when that was cut to .1uF.
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