[sci.electronics] fast chargers

phil@diablo.amd.com (12/20/89)

There's an article on fast chargers in EDN, 12/7/89.

It has a nice graph of three parameters, voltage, temperature, and
pressure as the battery approaches overcharge. It looks like
temperature is a useful charge indication and that pressure starts to
climb at the 80% level. This is important because if the battery isn't
made to handle the pressure between 80 and 100%, it will vent and lose
electrolyte. 

But the best indication is negative delta voltage. NiCds will drop in
voltage right when they reach 100%. They show a simple looking circuit
but caution that it really isn't that simple. 

Lead-acids seem more difficult and variable and no general solution
for fast charging is offered, but they do say the most common charging
(as opposed to fast charge) is constant-voltage. 

Finally, they have an express request system for info from the
manufacturers. It sounds great!

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mikemc@mustang.ncr-fc.FtCollins.NCR.com (Mike McManus) (12/21/89)

In article <28472@amdcad.AMD.COM> phil@diablo.amd.com writes:
>
>   Lead-acids seem more difficult and variable and no general solution
>   for fast charging is offered, but they do say the most common charging
>   (as opposed to fast charge) is constant-voltage. 

Question: Are the so-called "gel-cells" the same as lead-acid batteries?  I
have several gel-cells that I picked up cheap at a suplus store several years
ago.  I'm wondering what the effects of leaving them uncharged for long periods
of time are.  I don't have an immediate project in, but figured I would come up
with something eventually (OK, I admit it, I'm a pack-rat and that was all just
a rationalization!  But don't tell my wife that... :-).  Should I occasionally
discharge and charge the cells to keep them in proper working order?
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phil@diablo.amd.com (Phil Ngai) (12/21/89)

In article <MIKEMC.89Dec20104252@mustang.ncr-fc.FtCollins.NCR.com> mikemc@mustang.ncr-fc.FtCollins.NCR.com (Mike McManus) writes:
|Question: Are the so-called "gel-cells" the same as lead-acid batteries?  I

I think gel-cells are lead-acid chemistry.

|ago.  I'm wondering what the effects of leaving them uncharged for long periods
|of time are.  I don't have an immediate project in, but figured I would come up

I wouldn't leave them uncharged for ANY period of time.

|Should I occasionally
|discharge and charge the cells to keep them in proper working order?

I don't think they have NiCd memory so you probably don't need to do
this. If I am wrong I hope that someone will correct me.

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