[sci.electronics] 60 ohms considered harmful

mark@mips.COM (Mark G. Johnson) (12/20/89)

  Seen on page 33 of the December 18, 1989 issue of EE TIMES
  
     ... Augat product manager Mike Prisco ...

     "All high-speed logic is going to need 50 ohms"
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myers@hpfcdj.HP.COM (Bob Myers) (12/22/89)

>  Seen on page 33 of the December 18, 1989 issue of EE TIMES
>  
>     ... Augat product manager Mike Prisco ...
>
>     "All high-speed logic is going to need 50 ohms"


Yup.  And clearly in the context of high-speed logic requiring controlled-
impedance PC boards and connectors.  So what's wrong with that?



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mark@mips.COM (Mark G. Johnson) (12/28/89)

   >>  Seen on page 33 of the December 18, 1989 issue of EE TIMES
   >>  
   >>     ... Augat product manager Mike Prisco ...
   >>
   >>     "All high-speed logic is going to need 50 ohms"
   >
   >
   >Yup.  And clearly in the context of high-speed logic requiring
   >controlled-impedance PC boards and connectors.  So what's wrong
   >with that?


Yow, lack-o-smileys lamentably impedes universal understanding (again).
As C programmers, ask yerselves "why is there a magic number (50) embedded
up there?"

That's the joke, ladies und gents --- the quote above, read contrapositively,
says, "if it isn't 50 ohms then it cannot be high speed logic".  When stated
this way, do you agree?  Is 60 ohms truly a not-high-speed characteristic
impedance?  How about the Cray-1 with its 90 ohm characteristic impedance
"mat"?  (Or for that matter, the CDC 6600 and its 75 ohm coax).  What about
the folks at Tektronix who claim a Futurebus+ backplane will sustain 500
MBytes/sec (note: Futurebus+ != 50.0 ohms).

Why does the number 50.00 inspire such closed-minded religious zeal?
Should we indeed publicly preach that 60 ohms is considered harmful, and
40 is Right Out??  Are Cray and CDC either badly-designed, or not-fast??


Letting out a year-end harrumph,
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 -- Mark Johnson	
 	MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086
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