hpoppe@bierstadt.scd.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) (01/10/90)
Are X-10 devices compatible with the power line carrier portion of the CEbus specs? -- Herb Poppe NCAR INTERNET: hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu (303) 497-1296 P.O. Box 3000 CSNET: hpoppe@ncar.CSNET Boulder, CO 80307 UUCP: hpoppe@ncar.UUCP
ridder@elvira.enet.dec.com (Hans Ridder) (01/10/90)
In article <5948@ncar.ucar.edu> hpoppe@bierstadt.scd.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) writes: >Are X-10 devices compatible with the power line carrier portion of >the CEbus specs? Nope. Apparently they will *not* even peaceably coexist. The X-10 transmits about 60 bits/second, and the CEbus/PLbus transmits (if I remember right) 1000 *one* bits/second. Zeros take longer! >-- >Herb Poppe NCAR INTERNET: hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu >(303) 497-1296 P.O. Box 3000 CSNET: hpoppe@ncar.CSNET > Boulder, CO 80307 UUCP: hpoppe@ncar.UUCP -hans ======================================================================== Hans-Gabriel Ridder Digital Equipment Corporation ridder@elvira.enet.dec.com Customer Support Center ...decwrl!elvira.enet!ridder Colorado Springs, CO
rkh@mtune.ATT.COM (Robert Halloran) (01/10/90)
In article <5948@ncar.ucar.edu> hpoppe@bierstadt.scd.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) writes: >Are X-10 devices compatible with the power line carrier portion of >the CEbus specs? The Aug/Sept issue of Steve Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar Ink has an article on pg. 50 about X-10 vs. CEBus. Put simply, they aren't compatible and apparently interfere with one another because of their common use of a 120 KHz signal. The article says that future applications will have to choose between the two. Bob Halloran ========================================================================= UUCP: att!mtune!rkh Internet: rkh@mtune.ATT.COM Disclaimer: If you think AT&T would have ME as a spokesman, you're crazed. Quote: "Remember, kids, if some weirdo in a blue suit offers you some DOS, JUST SAY NO!!!"
markz@ssc.UUCP (Mark Zenier) (01/10/90)
In article <5948@ncar.ucar.edu>, hpoppe@bierstadt.scd.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) writes: > Are X-10 devices compatible with the power line carrier portion of > the CEbus specs? According to an article in Circuit Cellar INK, August/September 1989, they are "completly incompatible and, indeed, interfere with one another". Picking the same carrier frequency (120 Khz) was not smart. markz@ssc.uucp
jn53747@etana.tut.fi (Nousiainen Juha Antti) (01/10/90)
From article <5948@ncar.ucar.edu>, by hpoppe@bierstadt.scd.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe): > Are X-10 devices compatible with the power line carrier portion of > the CEbus specs? > > -- > Herb Poppe NCAR INTERNET: hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu > (303) 497-1296 P.O. Box 3000 CSNET: hpoppe@ncar.CSNET > Boulder, CO 80307 UUCP: hpoppe@ncar.UUCP What is CEbus and where can I find more information? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "The sum of the intelligence of the world is constant, The population is growing." Juha Nousiainen jn53747@tut.fi
hpoppe@bierstadt.scd.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) (01/11/90)
In article <371@ssc.UUCP> markz@ssc.UUCP (Mark Zenier) writes: >In article <5948@ncar.ucar.edu>, hpoppe@bierstadt.scd.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) writes: >> Are X-10 devices compatible with the power line carrier portion of >> the CEbus specs? > >According to an article in Circuit Cellar INK, August/September 1989, >they are "completly incompatible and, indeed, interfere with one another". I appreciate everyone who responded to this question. Since you've been so nice, I've decided to reward you with another question! :-) Are there any CEBus devices on the market yet that provide the functionality of the typical X-10 devices; for example, an incandescent lamp switch/dimmer that can be controlled locally or over the house wiring? If such devices are not yet available, what manufacturers should I watch for to be early players in the CEBus game? Thanks. -- Herb Poppe NCAR INTERNET: hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu (303) 497-1296 P.O. Box 3000 CSNET: hpoppe@ncar.CSNET Boulder, CO 80307 UUCP: hpoppe@ncar.UUCP
psfales@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (Peter Fales) (01/11/90)
In article <5948@ncar.ucar.edu>, hpoppe@bierstadt.scd.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) writes: > Are X-10 devices compatible with the power line carrier portion of > the CEbus specs? No. -- Peter Fales AT&T, Room 5B-420 N9IYJ 2000 N. Naperville Rd. UUCP: ...att!ihlpb!psfales Naperville, IL 60566 Domain: psfales@ihlpb.att.com work: (708) 979-8031
rkh@mtune.ATT.COM (Robert Halloran) (01/11/90)
In article <10692@etana.tut.fi> jn53747@etana.tut.fi (Nousiainen Juha Antti) writes: >What is CEbus and where can I find more information? The address of the Electronic Industries Association is: 2001 Eye St NW Washington DC 20006 I have no idea what charges they might ask for the CEBus spec, if any. Bob Halloran ========================================================================= UUCP: att!mtune!rkh Internet: rkh@mtune.ATT.COM Disclaimer: If you think AT&T would have ME as a spokesman, you're crazed. Quote: "Remember, kids, if some weirdo in a blue suit offers you some DOS, JUST SAY NO!!!"