[sci.electronics] How does one make a gas

mjj@stda.jhuapl.edu (Marshall Jose) (03/17/90)

The utilities around my neighborhood are aging, and I occasionally catch
a whiff of what I'm sure is methyl mercaptan (the tracer used in
natural gas distribution).  I've brought the local gas company out
for a look, but they find nothing.  I don't believe them.

I remember reading some years ago about how to make a methane detector.
It had something to do with a vacuum-tube-like filament, and something
magic occurred within it when in the presence of methane & some other
gaseous hydrocarbons, something about a change in current.

Does anybody out there know how one actually makes this device?  Or,
has anyone seen a recent construction article for a gas leak detector?

Thanks,
Marshall Jose  WA3VPZ
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bbesler@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Brent Besler) (03/18/90)

I am pretty sure the leak detectors are ionization type.  There is a high 
potential across two plates sufficient to ionize hydrocarbon gases, but not
oxygen or nitrogen.  A current proportional to the HC conc. is passed through
the sensing element.  Similar A/C refrigerant leak detectors exist also.  
Soapy water works pretty well at finding leaks.  You can buy a leak 
detector from a heating and cooling jobber/supply house.

                                          Brent H. Besler

larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) (03/19/90)

In article <386@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, bbesler@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Brent Besler) writes:
> I am pretty sure the leak detectors are ionization type.  There is a high 
> potential across two plates sufficient to ionize hydrocarbon gases, but not
> oxygen or nitrogen.  A current proportional to the HC conc. is passed through
> the sensing element.

	The above is not true.  You may be alluding to a Flame Ionization
Detector (FID) used on a gas chromatograph.  Such a detector employs a
hydrogen _flame_ to ionize the gas in addition to a DC potential imposed
across the detection electrode (which is connected to an electrometer).

	The traditional explosive gas detector, the MSA "Explosimeter", uses
a differential thermal conductivity detector.  Some specific gas detection
methods use a catalyst whose temperature increases in the presence of the
target gas; for example, some CO detectors employ a catalyst which oxidizes
CO to CO2, giving off heat in the process.

	There are also various solid-state detectors for hydrocarhon gases,
some of which employ catalytic coatings applied directly to silicon
temperature sensors.

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davidh8@pogo.WV.TEK.COM (David Haight) (03/20/90)

The last issue of MACHINE DESIGN (2/22) Pg.35 "Thin Film Gas Detectors"
reports on work being done at U of MI.  It mentions that a thin film
of tungsten, rhodium, palladium or titanium will change resistance
with exposure to methane.  They have had success in the ppm range and
expect ppb.  These will be cheap - disposable.