[sci.electronics] COMPOSITE -> TTL

mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) (05/24/90)

To correct any misinterpretations of the previous post, I'd just like to
point out that the interlace is generated in the source of the video signal,
by adding a half-line at the end of the frame.  This shifts the next frame
by a half-line in the vertical dimension.

Your monitor's selection between interlaced and non-interlaced modes probably
just changes the speed of the sync pulses the monitor is expecting.

The original poster wanted to run a signal from a VCR into a video
monitor from an ASCII terminal.  This is possible, but not trivial.
The cheap video monitor in the terminal requires a sync signal.  To
get this from a composite signal, you need a sync separator.  There
must be one in the VCR, so it may be possible to find a suitable signal
in there.

So maybe you could connect the composite signal to the video input, and
probe around inside the VCR with the sync input.  As I've described in the
past in this group, I once modified a TV set to receive pay-TV signals
encoded using inverted sync by a similar means.

I located a trace on the circuit board which appeared to connect the video
section to the sweep circuits.  I cut the trace, and turned the TV on, and the
picture would roll asynchronously to the transmitted picture.  Then, I hooked
the suspected horz sync signal to various places in earlier stages of the
video section, until I found an inverted sync signal.  Then, I wired in
a switch to flip back and forth between normal and inverted sync pulses.

Be warned that the voltage levels might not be compatible.  Also, a TTL
input on the monitor might be too much load for a CMOS output in the
VCR.

markz@ssc.UUCP (Mark Zenier) (05/25/90)

In article <24431@unix.cis.pitt.edu>, fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) writes:
> 	Greetings. I have a VCR with a COMPOSITE output that I
> 	want to use. I also have a _large_ number of terminals
> 	that lack the "digital" sections but have the CRT drive
> 	circuits in "prime" condition. Is it possible to use
> 	it with COMPOSITE? How? Specifically, I have a couple
> 	Visual 90s and some Televideo 912Cs that I would like to
> 	make something of... Anyone done it before?

Here's the pinout that seems to be standard for open frame TTL drive monitors.

01 ground          
02 contrast pot, one end (50k ohm ?)
03 contrast pot, the other end
04 contrast pot, wiper
05 ground          
06 horiz sync or drive       
07 + power (12 or 15 volts)         
08 video        
09 vert sync or drive       
10 ground          

TTL levels or something like them on 6, 8, and 9.

The connector's I've seen are either 10 pin .156 inch card edge or
a 10 pin .1 molex header (single line).

Here are some caveats:

1.  If it's a high volume product, they may not have bothered following
with this connector.

2. The video is very nonlinear, and inverted from the normal composite video.
    0 volts = dark, TTL 1 = bright.

3. Sync must be provided, if you want interlace, you have to get the vertical
timing just right.  Even worse, some units don't have oscillators built in, 
and the inputs are drive signals with frequency and pulse width requirements.
Get these wrong and the Horizontal Sweep circuit goes up in smoke.

4. You'll probably have to trap out the color subcarrier and sound.  Most
of these monitors are good for 8 to 12 Mhz.

Markz@ssc.uucp