J0S@psuvm.psu.edu (07/31/90)
I recently saw an Ad. for a book claiming to describe the installation of the CEBus in a house (price: $149.00!!). What is the CEBus? Where can I obtain detailed information at a reasonable price?
chip@hare.ingr.com (Chip Boling) (08/01/90)
In article <90212.090656J0S@psuvm.psu.edu>, J0S@psuvm.psu.edu writes: |> I recently saw an Ad. for a book claiming to describe the installation of |> the CEBus in a house (price: $149.00!!). What is the CEBus? Where can |> I obtain detailed information at a reasonable price? CEBus is the U.S. Consumer Electronics bus for the home. It is a SLOWLY evolving standard for using home wiring for communications between appliances, security, computers, sensors, ... in a persons home. Their are seperate physical standards being developed for twisted-pair, coaxial (cable), fiber (big bucks ;-)), and power-line (AC wiring). Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar magazine (around Nov-89 to Jan-90) had a fairly good article on it and what it is attempting to provide. I've been scanning this and a few other consumer newsgroups for more information on actual equipment, but have not seen any so far. I know that there are some "MAC" level chips available on the market from TI (and some partner I cannot recall right now), but these were being produced before the MAC and other layers were standardized. I seem to recall that they were hoping for a complete standard, with the exeption of the fiber interface, sometime around this summer. If anyone else has more info on available devices/experimenter's kits, I'd like to know also... As to the price of $149.00 for a book, it sure had better some hardware with it as the standards can be obtained for much less. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chip Boling | | (205) 730-6297 Intergraph Corp. CR1104 | PLAY \___o ULTIMATE | chip@ingr.com Huntsville, AL 35894-0001 | \ _ |...uunet!ingr!b11!hare!chip -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
guillaum@shiva.trl.oz (andrew guillaume) (08/02/90)
In article <90212.090656J0S@psuvm.psu.edu> J0S@psuvm.psu.edu writes: >I recently saw an Ad. for a book claiming to describe the installation of >the CEBus in a house (price: $149.00!!). What is the CEBus? Where can >I obtain detailed information at a reasonable price? The CEBus is the EIA (Electronic Industries Association) Home Automation Standard Consumer Electronic Bus. I posted a request to the net (sci.electronics) about a week ago, asking whether anybody knew the status of the Standard, but I haven't had a response yet !!! The CEBus has various types of media : power line, twisted pair, coax, infra red, radio freq., and fiber optics. To date, the only info I have is a draft interim Standard from the EIA (document EIA IS-60), which was released for balloting. It only addresses the power line media, but describes Data Link Layer, Node Network Layer and Application Layer (the CEBus model is based on OSI). I was particularly interested in finding out more about the twisted pair media, and had asked whether anyone out there knew whether the physical layer had been defined. As I said : no response. You can get info from the EIA at a reasonable price I understand (it's under the $50 mark), but I wish you good luck. I've been trying to get the info from the EIA for some time now, with no success. Maybe the EIA doesn't want to talk to us Aussies :-) If anybody can shed more light on the subject, I'd appreciate. I'm interested in any information, even if it is only interim. Email me, or fax me or post here ! Thanks in advance Andrew Guillaume Internet address : a.guillaume@trl.oz.au Telecom Australia Research Laboratories, 770 Blackburn Road Clayton, Victoria, Australia Phone +61 3 541 6743, Fax +61 3 543 3339
dlou@dino.ucsd.edu (Dennis Lou) (08/02/90)
In article <1996@trlluna.trl.oz> guillaum@shiva.trl.oz (andrew guillaume) writes: >In article <90212.090656J0S@psuvm.psu.edu> J0S@psuvm.psu.edu writes: >>I recently saw an Ad. for a book claiming to describe the installation of >>the CEBus in a house (price: $149.00!!). What is the CEBus? Where can >>I obtain detailed information at a reasonable price? > >If anybody can shed more light on the subject, I'd appreciate. I'm >interested in any information, even if it is only interim. Sorry, but the only thing I can offer is that I saw a TV show (possibly a news segment?) that showed someone who had a hand in coming up with the schema and his house which was completely wired for CEBus. It showed how his entire house was wired on the bus. His shutters opened with the sunset; you could see who was at the door from the TV, the toaster and coffee maker were synced to the alarm clock; the oven flashed a message on the TV when the roast was done, etc, etc, etc.... -- Dennis Lou Disclaimer: I don't use lame disks. dlou@dino.ucsd.edu "But Yossarian, what if everyone thought that way?" [backbone]!ucsd!dino!dlou "Then I'd be crazy to think any other way!"
rick@ofa123.fidonet.org (Rick Ellis) (08/06/90)
On <Aug 01 23:02> andrew guillaume writes:
ag> The CEBus is the EIA (Electronic Industries Association) Home
ag> Automation Standard Consumer Electronic Bus. I posted a request to the net
ag> (sci.electronics) about a week ago, asking whether anybody knew the
ag> status of the Standard, but I haven't had a response yet !!!
There is another meeting of the CEBus committee this week in Portland Oregon.
I'll be able to tell you more when our representative gets back on Thursday.
The twisted pair (TP) bus standard is scheduled to be released for comment in
January.
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pmeyer@ecocd7.intel.com (Paul Meyer) (08/07/90)
In article <850.26BD4798@ofa123.fidonet.org> rick@ofa123.fidonet.org (Rick Ellis) writes: > >There is another meeting of the CEBus committee this week in Portland Oregon. >I'll be able to tell you more when our representative gets back on Thursday. > >The twisted pair (TP) bus standard is scheduled to be released for comment in >January. > Being the home electronics/automation nut that I am (I'm trying to wire my Mac into an IR controller right now) I'd love to have the CEBus type of system in my house. Can anyone give any estimates as to when a usable standard will arise, and how long after that Consumer Electronics manufacturers (read Japan) will start using the standard? My real goal is to be able to plug a PC into the CEBus, with all my stereo/TV/VCR/thermostat stuff, and even my coffee maker and lights and such eventually, and be able to have total remote control of my house from a single remote hooked into my computer. The technology is there, its just a matter of showing there is a market and setting up a standard. -- ****************************************************************************** ** Paul Meyer (602)554-2078 ** "I remember reading somewhere that men learn ** ** Intel Corp. CH3-40 ** to love the person they're attracted to and ** ** 5000 W. Chandler Blvd. ** that women become more and more attracted to ** ** Chandler, AZ 85210 ** the person that they love." ** ** pmeyer@ecocd7.intel.com ** Sex, Lies, and Videotape ** ******************************************************************************
rick@ofa123.fidonet.org (Rick Ellis) (08/10/90)
On <Aug 06 18:33> Paul Meyer writes:
PM> Being the home electronics/automation nut that I am (I'm
PM> trying to wire my Mac into an IR controller right now) I'd love to have
PM> the CEBus type of system in my house. Can anyone give any estimates as
PM> to when a usable standard will arise, and how long after that Consumer
PM> Electronics manufacturers (read Japan) will start using the standard?
I'd hate to try guessing when the standard will actually be adopted but much of
it is somewhat usable as it now stands. From what I've seen most of the
current debate concerns transport methods. (For powerline the debate is about
using spread-spectrum or not.)
PM> My real goal is to be able to plug a PC into the CEBus, with all
PM> my stereo/TV/VCR/thermostat stuff, and even my coffee maker and lights
PM> and such eventually, and be able to have total remote control of my
PM> house from a single remote hooked into my computer. The technology is
PM> there, its just a matter of showing there is a market and setting up a
PM> standard.
That's what CEBus is about.
I've been running a home automation mailing list for a while now, let me know
if you'd like to be added.
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