peterr@utcsrgv.UUCP (Peter Rowley) (08/11/83)
Something was missing from the last article on New Order and Joy Division:
JD's music is indeed very depressing. "Love Will Tear Us Apart" is
probably the most musically upbeat song, which makes its very depressing
lyrics more poignant. It would be fair to call most JD songs dirges.
When Ian Curtis committed suicide, the band lost its main creative force.
The record company became rather ghoulish, releasing anything and everything
Curtis had something to do with ("Still" is a reflection of this), so you
may well find several recorded versions of the same song.
New Order's "Movement" is interesting in parts, but doesn't embody despair
and depression like JD's music does (nor was it intended to).rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (08/14/83)
So you think Joy Division is depressing, eh????? They've turned into
a bunch of wimpy song-singers ("Oh you've got blue eyes, oh you've got grey
eyes, oh you've got red eyes, oh you've got black eyes, etc.")rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (08/14/83)
Soooooo, you think Joy Division was depressing, eh? Well, they've turned
into a bunch of wimpy song-singers ("Oh, you've got blue eyes, oh, you've got
grey eyes, oh, you've got red eyes, oh, you've got black eyes, etc.") and
electropopsters with rhythm machines ("Blue Monday"). They're just a bunch
of babies, if you ask me. For a REAL depressing band, check out the Cure,
with their "everybody everywhere is always dead" lyrics, and music that's
even jollier than the lyrics!!! Or check out the rest of Martin Hannett's
progeny on Factory "Put-as-little-information-on-the-cover-as-possible"
Records. Stockholm Monsters. Section 25. The Partridge Family (now, THAT'S
depressing!!---bet you didn't know he produced THEM!). Molly Hatchet.
Van Halen. I'm talking depressing here!!!! What about Pere Ubu??? Peter
Laughner died, but nobody started singing about eye colors in that band!!
And if you sang like David Thomas, you'd probably cause someone to die as well.
Check out the new Partridge Family album (FACTUS 666) called "Still Still",
a nine-record set with rare unrecorded versions of "I Think I Love You,
So I Guess I'll Hang Myself" and other Hannett-produced classics. Watch for
the videos on MTV (you'll recognize them because the screen will be entirely
black).
Seriously, I really love Joy Division and New Order, both. I got on this
kick of telling Ian Curtis jokes when I was in a record store in New York and
saw a picture (that I thought was) of Ian Curtis. The salesman corrected me,
and told me that I might have thought that that was the case because it was
"hanging there". When we first went to see New Order, we waited outside in
the rain for hours, and joked about the idea that they couldn't start because
another member of the band had hanged himself.
No respect for the dead
(grateful or otherwise)
Rich Rosen pyuxn!rlrmcg@shark.UUCP (Steven McGeady) (08/15/83)
Is the Joy Division a new subgroup of Sun Microsystems? I know that they consider themselves the New Order.