[sci.electronics] Info request -- telephone cabling

simnet@ssc-vax.UUCP (Mark R Poulson) (10/27/90)

Since I don't know of any sci.phones group I thought I would try
sci.electronics...

I want to string some telephone extension cables that will go a rather long
distance (~100 feet). With these cables, I thought I'd string some others for
future use (alarm, RS232, ...). For the other cables I want to use shielded
twisted pair, but telephones are usually done with unshielded cable. I would
really like to buy one cable with multiple pairs, but I can't find any with
both shielded and unshieled twisted pairs.

So my question is: can I use shielded twisted pair for telephone circuits
or do they have undesireable side effects?

	Thanks,
		Mark
		...uw-beaver!ssc-bee!simnet

segal@motcid.UUCP (Gary Segal) (10/28/90)

simnet@ssc-vax.UUCP (Mark R Poulson) writes:

>Since I don't know of any sci.phones group I thought I would try
>sci.electronics...

>I want to string some telephone extension cables that will go a rather long
>distance (~100 feet). With these cables, I thought I'd string some others for
>future use (alarm, RS232, ...). For the other cables I want to use shielded
>twisted pair, but telephones are usually done with unshielded cable. I would
>really like to buy one cable with multiple pairs, but I can't find any with
>both shielded and unshieled twisted pairs.

>So my question is:  can I use shielded twisted pair for telephone circuits
>or do they have undesireable side effects?

You may have some problems running RS232 at distances over 50 feet.  Especially
if you are planning on using faster data rates (9600bps or more).  The problem
with longer cable runs is that the capacitance of the cable does not allow
the signal to change as fast as you want it.  If you have a problem, you'll
want to get a pair of short-haul modems, which are designed specfically for
this type of installation.

As far as you telephone lines go, using shielded twisted pair will have
DESIREABLE side effects.  If you are running multiple lines, twisted pair will
reduce if not eliminate the chance of cross talk.  Sheilding only helps to
reduce the chance of noise entering the cable, which seems very likely if you
are going to run RS232 in the same cable.  Of course, you must be very
carefull about your sheild grounds - in most cases, you only want to ground
one end of the cable sheild.  Whatever you do, don't run ANY current through
the sheild.

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