[sci.electronics] NTSC sync generator chip needed

MEHARP01@ulkyvx.BITNET (Michael Harpe) (02/13/91)

Can someone out there point me to an NTSC sync generator chip?  I am designing
a WEFAX decoder that will output video with interlaced sync and i'm trying
to keep the parts count down.  I checked my National and Motorola libraries
with no luck.

Please respond direct to me.  Thanks in advance!

Mike Harpe, N4PLE
University of Louisville

tomb@hplsla.HP.COM (Tom Bruhns) (02/15/91)

>Can someone out there point me to an NTSC sync generator chip?  I am designing
>a WEFAX decoder that will output video with interlaced sync and i'm trying
>to keep the parts count down.  I checked my National and Motorola libraries
>with no luck.

National used to make one -- MM5230???  I don't recall, but a CRTC
IC is generally a more useful way to do this.  A 6545 can be programmed
to generate pretty much standard NTSC video, interlaced and all.
It also generates all the memory scanning info you should need at
the same time.  I haven't kept up lately, but suspect there are a lot
of CRTC chips that could do similarly

myers@hpfcdj.HP.COM (Bob Myers) (02/16/91)

>Can someone out there point me to an NTSC sync generator chip?  I am designing
>a WEFAX decoder that will output video with interlaced sync and i'm trying
>to keep the parts count down.  I checked my National and Motorola libraries
>with no luck.

If you mean a chip which will produce syncs and blanking at the NTSC rates,
just about any of the video timing ICs intended for computer displays (such
as the venerable 6845), with the proper clock and programming, will do it.
If you're asking how to combine the syncs with the video, try an NTSC
modulator chip such as the MC1377 from Motorola.  (Or if you're going to
be doing the conversion from digital video info to the analog version anyway,
just about any video DAC includes sync and blanking inputs.  Try Brooktree
or Analog Devices.)


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gary@brb.isnet.inmos.co.uk (02/21/91)

In article ??? MEHARP01@ulkyvx.BITNET (Michael Harpe) writes:
> Can someone out there point me to an NTSC sync generator chip?  I am designing
> a WEFAX decoder that will output video with interlaced sync and i'm trying
> to keep the parts count down.  I checked my National and Motorola libraries
> with no luck.
> 
> Please respond direct to me.  Thanks in advance!

The information may be of use to other people, so I hope you don't mind me
posting this reply.

Try the SAA1043 "Universal Sync Generator" (not sure of the manufacturer).

The part appears on page 416 of the Maplin Electronics catalogue.

It writes "The IC generates the synchronising waveforms required in all types
of video source equipment e.g. video cameras, film scanners, video games,
computer displays etc. The device is programmable to suit standards
SECAM1, SECAM2, PAL/CCIR, NTSC1, NTSC2 and PAL-M; the video game 624 and
524 line standards; and can be synchronised to an external sync signal".

It is a 28 pin device, and costs 9 pounds (about 15 dollars).

Disclaimer - I have never used this device, but it sure sounds suitable.

Maplin Electronics is a mail order company which supplies a wide range
of electronic components to the hobbyist. They started off small, and 
grew large as a result of good service. They now have several retail
outlets around the country (in the larger cities such as Bristol). These
outlets are very good (as compared with T*ndy/R*dio Sh*ck), and have an
enormous selection of components/kits/books/tools etc. Their catalogue
is over 600 pages in size and costs 2 pounds 50 pence. It is now available
from most reputable newsagents (no US translation :-) ). They do accept
overseas orders. They also run a bulletin board type service, over which
you can order parts and pay by credit card.

Note: I am not connected in any way with this company - just a satisfied
customer.

Other video related parts they currently sell: LM1881 "Sync Separator" ;
TEA2000 "PAL Colour Encoder" (RGB digital to PAL video - NTSC also
supported) ; ZNA234E "TV Pattern Generator" (generates crosshatch/dots/
greyscale test patterns in PAL/NTSC video standards). 

Maplin also produce their own electronics magazine, and their projects
tend to feature devices which they sell. They recently had projects
on both the TEA2000 and ZNA234E parts, and so PCB's and kits are
available.

Please mail me directly if you require any more details. I believe another
poster may be interested in the TEA2000.

--Gary
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mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) (02/21/91)

The National chip is the MM5320.  It requires +5 and -12, and it
runs hot.  Ferranti makes (or used to make) a similar 5V-only chip.

I've used the 5320 several times, and it can be a pain.  Be sure
to decouple the -12 supply close to the package with a big cap.

dmturne@PacBell.COM (Dave Turner) (02/22/91)

In article <39458@cup.portal.com> mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes:
>The National chip is the MM5320.  It requires +5 and -12, and it

The RCA CD22402 is another chip that is becoming popular and is now easier to
find. Digikey sells them for about $10.50 . The data sheet is in a RCA
book that costs about as much but its worth it if you are serious about using
the CD22402.


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tomb@hplsla.HP.COM (Tom Bruhns) (02/27/91)

Yet another sync generator:  just saw it in a (very) recent National
linear update flyer.

"LM1882 Programmable Video Sync Generator

Features
o Fully definable video sync generation
o Interlace or non-interlace formats
o Separate H & V or composite syncs
o Default RS-170 NTSC on power-up
o Up to 100 MHz clock

Benefits
o Any-standard adaption
o Ideal for TV as well as workstation needs
o To handle the system requirements
o Mask-programmed into registers
o Allows for maximum flexibility and resolution  "

(The last three lines look like a layout person or marketeer took
some liberties...)