[sci.electronics] Neon?

billw@dirt.cisco.com (William ) (03/08/91)

Suddenly, there are "Neon light" appliances all over.  I rather suspect
that these aren't real Neon tubes, unless rapid advances in high voltage
technology (and safety) have been made.  So what are they?  Flouresents
with funny colored phosphors?

Thanks
BillW

charless@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Charles R. Sullivan) (03/11/91)

In article <BILLW.91Mar8025502@dirt.cisco.com> billw@dirt.cisco.com (William ) writes:
>Suddenly, there are "Neon light" appliances all over.  I rather suspect
>that these aren't real Neon tubes, unless rapid advances in high voltage
>technology (and safety) have been made.  So what are they?  Flouresents
>with funny colored phosphors?
>
>Thanks
>BillW

Actually, most so-called neon signs are not real neon, but just
cold-cathode fluorescents with different color phosphors.  A *real*
neon sign is an orange-red color, with clear glass tubing.  When it
is off you can't see any color at all.  Sometimes they use red tinted
glass with neon to get a red color.  But pretty much any other color
is made by using a mercury-argon gas (instead of neon) and coating
the inside of the glass with a phosphor that glows the right color 
when the UV from the mercury hits it.  The phosphor will look white
or the color of the light when the current is off, and is pretty
much opaque.

The high voltage requirements of neon lamps are due mainly to the 
higher voltage drop at a cold cathode as compared with the heated
filament of a normal fluorescent, and the long tubing used in 
signs that curl around many times.  (One of the reasons for using
long tubes is so that the power and voltage lost at the cathode
won't be too large a fraction of the total input. Voltage drop
is on the order of 300V at the electrodes, and 100V/foot of
tubing.)  Tube diameter, fill pressure and fill gas also affect
voltage requirements, but the C-C fluorescent needs similar voltage
to a neon.

I think a lot of the new stuff like phones with built-in lights
has electronics and high-frequency tranformers producing the high
voltage.  Most, but not all, that I have seen use use C-C fluorescent,
not neon.

Charlie Sullivan                              charless@cory.berkeley.edu