lansford@tusun2.mcs.utulsa.edu (Wendell Wayne Lansford) (04/10/91)
The following problem was recently posed by my professor in Advanced Networks: TRANSISTOR IN A BOX PUZZLE ------------- + ----| |---- + | Black | Vin | Box | Vout | | - ----| |---- - ------------- The black box contains ONLY one depletion-mode MOS transistor and NOTHING ELSE. A sinusoidal voltage source, Vin, is connected to the box as shown, and a measurement in the steady state reveals that the magnitude of Vout is greater than the magnitude of Vin (ie |Vout| > |Vin|), where Vout and Vin are phasors corresponding to ac voltages. Find how the transistor is connected and explain how such a voltage gain is possible. (Note: The above is not just a "paper" result and can be reproduced in the laboratory.) Can anyone readily provide some insight into this problem? Thanks! Wendell Lansford lansford@tusun2.mcs.utulsa.edu
cl2n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Fleming Lane) (04/11/91)
Hi, I have a clue as how to do this. First you must realize that a MOSFET is a 4 terminal device with the small signal equivilent below: Gate --------------- --------------------- Drain Vgs GmVgs GmbVbs Ro Source ----------------------------------------------------- Vbs Bulk --------------- Where Vgs is the gate to source Voltage, Vbs is the bulk to source Voltage, GmVgs is the transconductance of the Gate-Source, GmbVgs is the transconductance os the Bulk-Source, and Ro is the output impedance. Gm is large the Gmb. If it is set up like Gate --------- Drain - - - - Source ------- Source with source and bulk tied together, an input Vo would result in an output of -GmVoRo, which will hopefully be bigger than Vo. I hope this answers the question. I may be wrong (no guarantees). Later, Chris Lane cl2n@andrew.cmu.edu
grege@gold.gvg.tek.com (Greg Ebert) (04/12/91)
In article <1285@tusun2.mcs.utulsa.edu> lansford@tusun2.UUCP (Wendell Wayne Lansford) writes: >The following problem was recently posed by my professor in Advanced >Networks: > >TRANSISTOR IN A BOX PUZZLE > > ------------- > + ----| |---- + > | Black | > Vin | Box | Vout > | | > - ----| |---- - > ------------- > > [...] Awright, how 'bout this : A depletion-mode MOSFET is actually a 4-terminal device. It looks like this: o Drain | ----||---+---K|--- | Cgd | | | \ *---o substrate gate o--* | | | | | ----||---*--K|---- Cgs | o Source Those -K|- devices are parasitic diodes. The switch inside is controlled by Vgs: OFF if Vgs < Vp; on otherwise. Connect an AC source across the gate and substrate. Now connect the source and drain terminals together. Finally, connect an imagionary load across the source-drain terminal and the substrate. Look familiar ? It's a capacitive voltage doubler. Imagine the gate is negative with respect to the substrate. Cgs and Cdg are charged 'negatively', thus the MOSFET is pinched-off. In fact, you can now forget that it's even a MOSFET. Now let the gate go positive with respect to the substrate. There is no path to discharge Cgs & Cgd (thanks to the diodes), so the device remains pinched-off. Looking at the drain-source node, the voltage with respect to the substrate is the voltage on Cgs/Cgd PLUS the gate-substrate voltage. Thinking about it some more, I think the issue of whether or not the MOSFET is pinched-off is irrelevant.
lansford@tusun2.mcs.utulsa.edu (Wendell Wayne Lansford) (04/12/91)
Your solution is interesting. My professor, who originally solved the problem for an instructor in New York who was witnessing this phenomenon in his use of MOSFETs, gave me his solution. The solution is rather tedious, but the theory is as follows: The fact that the device is a transistor is only incidental to the observation that it is a distributed RC structure. Vinput is from the Gate to the Source and Voutput is from the Drain to the Source (ie a typical connection). The channel exhibits a total resistance, Rt. The gate and channel form a distributed capacitor, C. The idea is that at some frequency, Vgd (Voltage from gate to drain) will be 180 degrees out of phase with Vinput. Noting that Voutput = Vinput - Vgd, it can be seen that at this 180 degrees out of phase frequency, Voutput will be greater than Vinput. This "passive" voltage gain phenomenon should be observed at frequencies around 1 GigaHz for uncased, leadless devices. Wendell Lansford lansford@tusun2.mcs.utulsa.edu