[sci.electronics] Recommendations wanted for car FM signal booster...

nyet@nntp-server.caltech.edu (n liu) (05/02/91)

I was paging though Crutchfield the other day when i came
upon a fm signal booster for ~30 bucks. Now, i thought to
myself, I wouldn't mind trying one of those out, since
my rather cheezy tuner don't lock into the stereo carrier
too good. But I wasn't about to buy it, for several reasons..
One: catalog=drag
Two: thirty bucks
Three: my tuner might be beyond hope.
So, hell, how hard could it be to just build one of these
suckers? So what kind of components/gain/etc. should i be
looking for?  I've built minor audio amps, etc. but i'm not
to familiar with the MHz range... Any recommendations?

thanks
nye

miker@polari.UUCP (Mike Ranta) (05/03/91)

>I was paging though Crutchfield the other day when i came
>upon a fm signal booster for ~30 bucks. Now, i thought to
>myself, I wouldn't mind trying one of those out, since
>my rather cheezy tuner don't lock into the stereo carrier
>too good. But I wasn't about to buy it, for several reasons..

FM signal boosters are basically worthless.  Unless you have a _real_
cheap receiver _and_ live way out in the sticks, they only create 
more problems than they solve.
 
For one thing, signal strength usually isn't the problem with FM
reception.  All that crap you hear as you drive around is usually
multipath and is caused by reflections not by low signal (it does
_appear_ that the signal is dropping in and out but it's actually
being cancelled).  Secondly, if you do live a long distance from
your stations, the limiting factor is usually the noise figure of
the front end of your receiver.  The noise figure of the FM boosters
is usually no better, if not worse than most receivers.  Finally,
the boosters also amplify all the strong stuff and usually cause
overload problems (and make the multipath worse).

john@newave.UUCP (John A. Weeks III) (05/04/91)

In article <1991May2.113020.17346@nntp-server.caltech.edu> nyet@nntp-server.caltech.edu (n liu) writes:
> I was paging though Crutchfield the other day when i came
> upon a fm signal booster for ~30 bucks. Now, i thought to
> myself, I wouldn't mind trying one of those out, since
> my rather cheezy tuner don't lock into the stereo carrier
> too good. But I wasn't about to buy it, for several reasons..

An amplifier cannot make a signal where no signal exists.  If
you have a fairly solid signal, but just a bit noisy, a booster
might clear things up.  If you have any mulit-path interference
(the radio equivalent of ghosts), the amplifier will just make
things worse.  An FM booster also tends to reduce the selectivity
of the tuner, so you might also have new problems with close stations
bluring togather.

The best thing you can do for your FM is check out your current 
antenna.  Those rubber duck things just do not have the reception
power of a 3 or 4 foot steel whip antenna.

If you do want to try an amp, go to one of those places that have
a 30 day return policy.  Best Buy does, and I'm sure that you
have something similar on the left coast.

> So, hell, how hard could it be to just build one of these
> suckers? So what kind of components/gain/etc. should i be
> looking for?  I've built minor audio amps, etc. but i'm not
> to familiar with the MHz range... Any recommendations?

Lots hard.  An RF circuit is just as much mechanical as it is electrical.
Murphy dictates that you should try building an RF oscillator, because
most RF amps will oscillate....

-john-

-- 
=============================================================================
John A. Weeks III               (612) 942-6969             john@newave.mn.org
NeWave Communications                       ...uunet!tcnet!wd0gol!newave!john