[sci.electronics] Intel's ICE 51

iisakkil@vipunen.hut.fi (Mika R Iisakkila) (06/22/91)

bender@oobleck.Eng.Sun.COM (memory fault - core dumped) writes:

> I remember doing some code on a "real" INTEL 8051 emulator (ICE-51) running
> on a "blue box" (system 3?? ISIS OS, 2 8" disk drives, CREDIT, remember
> that!) but I don't seem to remember that INTEL used a bonded-out 8051 in
> their emulator, like the AA unit does - anyone familiar with how INTEL's
> 8051 ICE is architected?

The Intel ICE252-5100 (not the latest model by Intel and probably
newer than the one that you've used) has a 68-pin PGA-cased chip in
its bonded-out device. I never opened it to see the prints on the
chip, but it's definitely not a plain vanilla 8051. The emulator
itself is excellent, but the user interface of the PC version sucks
big time. I've heard that the latest model is much more convenient
to use.

As a side remark, why didn't you use the internal clock oscillator in
the 8051? Doesn't it work with overtone crystals? I've had a 11.059 MHz
(in order to get standard baud rates) crystal in all my projects, and
the internal osc has worked just fine.

bender@oobleck.Eng.Sun.COM (memory fault - core dumped) (06/25/91)

In article <IISAKKIL.91Jun22131647@vipunen.hut.fi> iisakkil@vipunen.hut.fi (Mika R Iisakkila) writes:
->bender@oobleck.Eng.Sun.COM (memory fault - core dumped) writes:
->As a side remark, why didn't you use the internal clock oscillator in
->the 8051? Doesn't it work with overtone crystals? I've had a 11.059 MHz
->(in order to get standard baud rates) crystal in all my projects, and
->the internal osc has worked just fine.

I did, and that worked at 12 MhZ, but I wanted to get the emulator's clock
working also.

mike
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