[comp.os.misc] NeXT software distribution...

STORKEL@RICE.BITNET (Scott Storkel) (10/17/88)

What's the big controversy over software distribution? Reports that I have seen
from the announcement inidcate that Jobs was begging, excuse me, suggesting
that software packages be priced under $500. If software is going to cost $300-
$500 then what's 50 bucks for the media? Besides, if you buy in quantity, you
could probably get the price down to $20-$30 or lower. This is comparable to
distributing Unix programs on 1/4 inch tape. As for software updates, shareware
GNU and stuff, you could either have disks with big libraries of stuff (X, GNU
Emacs, etc.) or you could get stuff through anonymous ftp. I assume that most
major universities (and that is the targeted market, no?) are fairly well
connected.  Anyway, I can't wait until we get some NeXT machines here. I'm
just dying to hack away at Objective-C, Common Lisp, and the NeXTStep
interface. Somebody put a NeXT on my desk and I'll write software that will
change the world!

Scott Storkel
Macintosh Software Development
Rice University

wetter@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (Pierce T. Wetter) (10/19/88)

>Somebody put a NeXT on my desk and I'll write software that will
>change the world!
>
>Scott Storkel
>Macintosh Software Development
>Rice University

Ditto. 
Anyone want a Linear System package for designing servos, and almost anything
with a feedback loop?
A ray tracer?
A three D modeler for the above?
Milo for the NeXT box (with Ron Avitzur's help.)?
g++?
An X-server for NeXTStep?
Anti-Aliased fonts?
An oscilloscope using the A/D in the box?
A signal generator using the D/A in the box?

Send your vote as to which project I should do first (if a NeXT box should
magically fall from the sky into my lap, or if not, maybe for my Mac II)
to wetter@csvax.caltech.edu
Pierce

harmeet@koko.UUCP (Harmeet Singh Gill) (10/20/88)

Two options come to mind:

	#1:	Send in your own disk to the software vendor who would "copy"
the software you purchased and mail it back to you. 
        #2:     Call up the software company direct on a toll free number, pay
for the software through a credit card and they would then download the softwarevia modem and mail you a copu of the manual.                

rick@pcrat.UUCP (Rick Richardson) (10/20/88)

In article <619STORKEL@RICE> STORKEL@RICE.BITNET (Scott Storkel) writes:
>just dying to hack away at Objective-C, Common Lisp, and the NeXTStep
>interface. Somebody put a NeXT on my desk and I'll write software that will
>change the world!

Having a good set of the latest tools is important (but not necessary)
in any project.

To write the software that will change the world requires a world
changing *idea* first.  NeXT isn't selling those. If you have
one of those already, you can start now on your local Sun, Mac,
or even lowly PC.  I hope your idea is a large as your energy
level seems to be.  Good Luck!

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wetter@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (Pierce T. Wetter) (10/21/88)

>>interface. Somebody put a NeXT on my desk and I'll write software that will
>>change the world!
> 
> To write the software that will change the world requires a world
> changing *idea* first.  NeXT isn't selling those. If you have

   Heres one:

        To get a more intelligent answering machine.

By a NeXT machine, hook it to you phone line.
     Hello. This is Derek's computer. Are you sure you want to talk to him?
     Answer yes or no.
     Caller: "Yes."
     Should I try to find him, or would you like to leave a message?
     Caller: "Message"
     Ok. Start talking whenever you're ready, and say Abracadabra when done.
     Caller leaves long rambling message with many pauses ands Gaps. Finally
     says Abracadabra or hangs up. Box filters out line noise, gaps, and sends
     you voice mail.

     Or Caller: "Find"
      Next box tries all the local machines until it finds one your logged into
      then sends you a message, along with playing the ride in case you're in
      your room (you'd answer it REAL fast).
      Ok I got him he says: "Hi, I'm in the graphics lab phone # xxx-xxxx"


Pierce.

P.S. 256 Meg is ~= 10 hours of messages, sampled at 8 kHz.
P.P.S. And of course I'm not even going to talk about Fred Thompson's natural
language processor here at Tech.