rose@galtee.cs.wisc.edu (Scott M. Rose) (12/28/90)
Coherent Digest Vol. 90.4, No. 5 Thu Dec 27 15:25:29 CST 1990 Today's Topics: /usr/spol/uucppublic/downloads/Contents Re: s..l..o..w serial ports misc questions dev entries downloads misc questions Site locked? RE: misc questions ( configurable at drive handler ) Re: Moving to an Alt group device driver for SCSI SCSI support printers and modems Administrivia: The Coherent Digest is a forum for discussion of the MWC Coherent 3.x operating system. Send submissions to "coherent@cs.wisc.edu" and administrivia to "coherent-request@cs.wisc.edu". Previous issues are archived for anonymous FTP access on piggy.ucsb.edu in the directory "pub/coherent/mail-list". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Dec 90 17:03:02 From: mhm!root (Mohd H. Misnan) To: coherent@uop.edu Subject: /usr/spol/uucppublic/downloads/Contents [This is a list of files that I just download from mwcbbs (12/22/90). There is a file that I can't locate in the listing. I don't know where they put dtree.tar.Z (it supposed to be in /usr/spool/uucppublic) as implied in the note below. Hope this can help you guys. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Hamid ] ----- CUT HERE -------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Any fixes posted to mwcbbs are not guaranteed to be 100% bug free. Before adding any improved versions of utilities, check the permissions on your existing utilities and make the necessary corrections to the versions you pull from mwcbbs. If you encounter any difficulties with newer versions of utilities posted to mwcbbs, please contact us so that we may correct the problem and improve the overall system for all COHERENT users. All files can be found in /usr/spool/uucppublic/filename unless otherwise specified. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Bytes Name Description ------------------------------------- advent.tar.Z A text adventure game. Download the following parts: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/advent/advent.Zaa 36428 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/advent/advent.Zab To rebuild, concatenate these file into advent.tar.Z, uncompress and untar the file. 38588 awk.310b 'Fixed' awk. Fixes a bug in split and assignment of expressions to variables. This replaces awk.310a and fixes other subtle bugs discovered recently since the 310a posting. This fixes a bug where lead spaces were not recognized in floating point numbers. It allows parenthesized versions of printf and print. 1369 bkup2.Z Script file for producing a level 0 dump of /dev/root. 4340 cb.tar.Z The popular utility for 'beautifying' your C code. 4140 cdiff.tar.Z Used to produce Berkley 3.2 style diff files. 2941 cgrep.c.Z An 'egrep' variant which understands C code. See the comments in the code for instructions and command line options. clam-133.tar.Z C shell emulator for Coherent. Download these parts: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/clam/clam133.Zaa 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/clam/clam133.Zab 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/clam/clam133.Zac 42523 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/clam/clam133.Zad * (Concatenate these files to clam-133.tar.Z) 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/clam/cohclam.Zaa 20345 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/clam/cohclam.Zab * (Concatenate these to coh-clam.tar.Z) To rebuild, uncompress and untar each file. 'coh-clam.tar.Z' contains the necessary instructions to build the Clam shell for Coherent. You will also need patch20.tar.Z. 26463 compress.tar.Z NEW COMPRESS, fixes a bug in zcat. 14594 cut.sh.Z Cut and paste utilities. This is a compressed and sharred file. deliver.tar.Z Mail delivery utilities. Download the following files: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/deliver/deliver.Zaa 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/deliver/deliver.Zab 28657 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/deliver/deliver.Zac Concatenate these files into deliver.tar.Z 19668 dtree.tar.Z Tree utility for COHERENT 21606 dos A NEW dos command which can format floppies and understand extended dos partitions. Download as: /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/updates/dos -also- /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/updates/dos.manpage 924 dumpscreen.c.Z Screen dump utility for COHERENT. elle41C.tar.Z Emacs-like screen editor. Uses Emacs style commands and can handle large files. Download these parts: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elle/elle41C.Zaa 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elle/elle41C.Zab 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elle/elle41C.Zac 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elle/elle41C.Zad 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elle/elle41C.Zae 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elle/elle41C.Zaf 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elle/elle41C.Zag 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elle/elle41C.Zah 6093 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elle/elle41C.Zai Rebuild by concatenating these files to elle41C.tar.Z, uncompressing and untarring the file. Elvis14tar.Z Source code and makefile for elvis1.4 screen editor. This is split into 6 parts. Download the following: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elvis/elvis14tar.Zaa 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elvis/elvis14tar.Zab 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elvis/elvis14tar.Zac 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elvis/elvis14tar.Zad 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elvis/elvis14tar.Zae 45474 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/elvis/elvis14tar.Zaf Rebuild by concatenating the files into Elvis14tar.Z then uncompress and untar the file. 12816 emacs.tar.Z Enhance to microEmacs to allow usage of keypad cursor control keys. gnutar.tar.Z TAR utility for archiving files. Format can be read other Unix systems. Requires a libndir.a library. This can be found in the coh-clam.tar.Z file. Download the following parts: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/gnutar/gnutar.tar.Zaa 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/gnutar/gnutar.tar.Zab 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/gnutar/gnutar.tar.Zac 45935 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/gnutar/gnutar.tar.Zad Rebuild by concatenating these files to gnutar.tar.Z, uncompressing and untarring the file. kermit.tar.Z Ckermit. A pd kermit which sports several enhanced features, too numerous to list here! Download as: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.ZaA 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zab 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zac 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zad 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zae 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zaf 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zag 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zah 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zai 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zaj 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zak 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zal 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zam 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zap 24931 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/ckermit/kermit.tar.Zao To rebuild, concatenate these files into kermit.tar.Z, uncompress and untar the archive. less.tar.Z Popular less utility, similar to 'pg' and 'more'. Download these files: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/less/less.tar.Zaa 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/less/less.tar.Zab 41839 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/less/less.tar.Zac Concatenate these files into less.tar.Z 16308 lex.310a Post 310 version of lex which corrects a bug which misinterpretted a '#' in coloumn #1 inside a lex action. lharc.tar.Z Archiver/unarchiver. Download as: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/lharc/lharc.tar/Zaa 3810 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/lharc/lharc.tar/Zab Reconcatenate these into lharc.tar.Z. 48345 libc.a.Z New libc.a library. Corrects a bug with scanf. Download as : /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/updates/libc.a.Z 7066 llesh.c.Z Bourne shell overlay for command history 23430 mail.310a Post 310 version of mail. When you add this to your system, make the necessary permission changes to the .310a version and link it to rmail. Download as: /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/updates/mail.310a make.tar.Z New make utility ported from pd sources. Download as: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/make/make.tar.Zaa 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/make/make.tar.Zab 7084 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/make/make.tar.Zac 16420 menu.tar.Z Menu utility produced by CCSH, a Bourne shell compiler. patch20.tar.Z Patch utility, originally used with the Clam shell. Download the following parts: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/patch/patch20.Zaa 38565 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/patch/patch20.Zab shar.tar.Z Archiving utilities for packing/unpacking shell archives. Download as: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/shar/shar.tar.Zaa 11114 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/shar/shar.tar.Zab 1964 shells.tar.Z Various shell scripts to make formatting, mkfsing and copying diskettes easier tasks. 2492 screen.tar.Z Utility for setting screen colors. unzip.tar.Z Unzips files compressed with zip. Download these parts: 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/unzip/unzip.Zaa 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/unzip/unzip.Zab 50000 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/unzip/unzip.Zac 40927 /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/unzip/unzip.Zad Rebuild by concatenating the files int unzip.tar.Z, then uncompress and untar the file. 828 uptime.c.Z Utility which will print the last time COHERENT was booted. 47080 uucico.310 Revision of uucico that allows use of MYNAME in the file /usr/lib/uucp/Permissions. This file belongs at /usr/lib/uucp/uucico with permissions of setuid and setgrp, owned by uucp, group uucp. 19186 uux.310b Post 310 version of uux. Addresses subtle bugs relating to mail distribution and LCK.. files. Download as: /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/updates/uux.310b 17054 uuxqt.310b Revision of uuxqt with bug fix so that certain "Can't open log file" errors no longer cause incoming mail to get stuck in /usr/spool/uucp/<sitename>. This file belongs at /usr/lib/uucp/uuxqt with permissions of setuid and setgrp, owned by uucp, group uucp. .310b version addresses other subtle bugs. Download as: /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/updates/uuxqt.310b +---------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Mohd H. Misnan | UUCP: mhm!{root|hamid}@uop.uop.edu | | 810, West Stadium Dr #6 | INET: hmisnan@madvax.uop.edu | | Stockton, CA 95204. | acs17111@uop.uop.edu | +---------------------------+-------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 90 01:05:41 PST From: curt@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Curt Sampson) To: coherent Subject: Re: s..l..o..w serial ports Larry Rachman <74066.2004@CompuServe.COM> writes: > Someone else mentioned this, but I don't remember what (or if a) solution > was posted. I was the one that mentioned this problem. No solution has been posted to this point. > When releasing a port from kermit, communication on that port (com2r) > becomes very sluggish. The characters come at the appropriate data rate (in > this case 19,200), but they trickle out at the equivalent of about 50 bps. I seem to have eliminated this problem. I've been very careful about disabling the port (with /etc/disable) before I start up kermit and reenabling it afterwards. Since I started getting fussy about this that problem seems to have gone away. > When I wink DTR, the port resends the login message, as it should, but at > the slow rate. If I wink DTR __while the login message is printing__, the > port immediately reverts back to proper (full speed) operation. How do you manage to "wink DTR" when calling up? I take it you do this from the Coherent end of things somehow. I can't see how this could make a difference, though, but if it works, it works. Hell, in my port of Berkeley more it breaks when I don't have a seemingly useless printf in the right place.... cjs | "And if you fight and if you fail, don't curt@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca | fall back into yourself. You can fall {uunet|ubc-cs}!van-bc!cynic!curt | back on me." --Camper Van Beethoven ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 90 05:31:05 From: citrus!root@csusac.ecs.csus.edu (Joel M. Baldwin Superuser) To: coherent@csusac.ecs.csus.edu% Cc: root@csusac.ecs.csus.edu% Subject: misc questions I got my update to 3.10 last week and installed it over the weekend. I've been looking forward to the "configurable AT hard disk driver for unsupported disks" since both of my drives aren't in the BIOS tables. *BUT* the release notes don't say anything other than "COHERENT release 3.1 adds support for these drives during installation by 'patching' the disk parameters into the bootstrap and the /coherent image on the hard disk." Thats NOT enough for me to figure out what to do. I assume that I use the /conf/patch program to patch a /conf/*boot* file and the /coherent file. But what symbols are patched with what? Does anyone on the echo know what to do? I wouldn't think that I'm the only one interested in this, so I'm asking publicly on the echo. While we're talking about symbols in the /coherent file, does anyone know what some of them are? Some of them looking awfully interesting. Some of the interesting ones follow from a run of "nm -an /coherent". FFFFF354 SI altclk_rate_ FFFFF3DD SI altclk_in_ FFFFF402 SI altclk_out_ 0094 PD MAXMEM 0096 PD CMOSmax_ 009A PD gdtmap_ 00A0 PD idtmap_ 00A6 PD gdtsel_ 00A8 PD idtsel_ 0262 PD rootdev_ 0264 PD pipedev_ 0266 PD swapdev_ 0268 PD swapbot_ 026C PD swaptop_ 0276 PD NCLIST_ 0278 PD ALLSIZE_ 027A PD NINODE_ 027C PD NBUF_ 042C PD DMALCK_ 05B0 PD version_ 05B8 PD copyright_ 0720 PD NPOLL_ 0A06 PD NSLOT_ 0A08 PD slotsz_ 0A0A PD ISTSIZE_ 0A26 PD a0con_ 0A40 PD C1BAUD_ 0A42 PD C3BAUD_ 0A44 PD A0CNT_ 0A4A PD albaud_ 0A72 PD alp_rate_ 0A9A PD a1con_ 0AB4 PD C2BAUD_ 0AB6 PD C4BAUD_ 0AB8 PD A1CNT_ 0CB6 PD LP0_OK_ 0CB8 PD LPTIME_ 0CBA PD LPWAIT_ 12BC PD mmcrtsav_ 12BE PD mmvcnt_ 12D6 PD VIDSLOW_ 12D8 PD atcon_ 12F2 PD atparm_ (* this looks like it might be it to me *) 1312 PD ATBSYW_ 2379 BD poll_owner_ 237B BD poll_rate_ On a related topic, how do you make a swapping kernel? Or can you? Should I, or shouldn't I believe the swap entry in the lexicon? I only have 640K in my system and I sure could use swapping. Next problem. Where are these files on mwcbbs? uucp mwcbbs!/usr/spool/uucppublic/awk.310b ~/ uucp mwcbbs!/usr/spool/uucppublic/compress.tar.Z ~/ uucp mwcbbs!/usr/spool/uucppublic/lex.310a ~/ I keep trying, and keep getting some message about "remote won't send". If there is a version of these programs that is newer than the 3.1 update I just received, then I would rather have the newer program. And now for the finale. I want to get net-news into my coherent system and to read it. Has c-news or b-news successfully been ported to coherent? Which one would you recommend? How about a news reader? Are there any decent ones that have been ported to coherent? How about mail readers? I'd love to get elm on coherent. I got it to compile on my coherent system but the resulting executeable was MUCH too LARGE. What are some of you using on your coherent systems? Well this is enough for now. Thank you for your time and the bandwidth. toots! Joel M. Baldwin H ( 916 ) 383-9470 N6NPL W " 452-1481 uunet!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!citrus!root Sacramento CA. /\../\ ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 90 12:26:57 From: mwc!hal@uunet.UU.NET (Hal Snyder) To: cohmail@uunet.UU.NET Subject: dev entries > ... when I attempt to 'restore' the 'file' /dev/com1 from release disk > #2, using > cp /f0/dev/com1l /dev/com1l > > the console hangs until I enter ^C. > > ...Can someone come to my aid with an explaination of what's going on, > and/or a way to recover com1l? Entries in /dev for devices are nodes that simply connect a device name, such as "com1l", with a major and minor number for that device (5 and 128, respectively, for com1l). The driver code must be present in the kernel, or in a loadable driver, for an i/o request to one of these nodes to succeed. To restore com1l, you only need to fix the node, as the driver code is still there. As root, enter the command: /etc/mknod /dev/com1l c 5 128 Mark Williams Tech. Support (708)-291-6700 (voice) uunet!mwc!support (708)-291-6750 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 90 12:43:34 From: mwc!hal@uunet.UU.NET (Hal Snyder) To: cohmail@uunet.UU.NET Subject: downloads A recent posting to this list included a list of downloads available on the MWC node, mwcbbs. Unfortunately, the path for these files was incorrectly stated as /usr/spool/uucppublic/filename - it SHOULD be /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/filename. Mark Williams Tech. Support (708)-291-6700 (voice) uunet!mwc!support (708)-291-6750 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 90 14:44:03 From: mwc!hal@uunet.UU.NET (Hal Snyder) To: cohmail@uunet.UU.NET Subject: misc questions > ...the release notes don't say anything other than "COHERENT release 3.1 > adds support for these drives during installation by 'patching' the disk > parameters into the bootstrap and the /coherent image on the hard disk." The installation program in COHERENT 3.1.0 does the patching automatically. Just before entering COHERENT fdisk, the program displays parameters as determined by CMOS and BIOS, and asks if these values are correct. If you say no, it will prompt you for changes and make the necessary patches. > ...symbols in the /coherent file many of these are documented in the driver kit. Here are a few explanations: 0262 PD rootdev_ major and minor numbers for root device 0A40 PD C1BAUD_ default speed for com1 (encoded as in /usr/include/v7sgtty.h) 0A42 PD C3BAUD_ default speed for com3 0A44 PD A0CNT_ 2 if com1 AND com3 usable 0AB4 PD C2BAUD_ default speed for com2 0AB6 PD C4BAUD_ default speed for com4 0AB8 PD A1CNT_ 2 if com2 AND com4 usable Of course, casual patching of kernel variables is fraught with peril. It is unbelievably easy to lose an entire file system. > ... how do you make a swapping kernel? > I only have 640K in my system and I sure could use swapping. Swapping can be turned on if you get the driver kit. We decided not to allow swapping in the standard release because: 1. Swapping kills performance, and RAM is real cheap these days. Anyway, since no process (including the kernel!) can exceed 128k bytes, even 640k is quite a bit of room. 2. Swapping requires a defect-free region of the drive - and allocation of the swap area can be tricky. > Where are these files on mwcbbs? /usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads (Sorry!) Mark Williams Tech. Support (708)-291-6700 (voice) uunet!mwc!support (708)-291-6750 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 90 14:48:10 From: mwc!hal@uunet.UU.NET (Hal Snyder) To: cohmail@uunet.UU.NET Subject: Site locked? > When I attempt a uucico connection to mwcbbs, nothing happens. > The error message 'Site locked' is appended to the uulog. I can't seem to > find it in the manual. Any guesses?? As user "root", try cd /usr/spool/uucp lc Chances are, you will see some lock and/or temporary files. Do rm /usr/spool/uucp/[LT]* Mark Williams Tech. Support (708)-291-6700 (voice) uunet!mwc!support (708)-291-6750 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 90 15:18:14 From: citrus!root@csusac.ecs.csus.edu (Joel M. Baldwin Superuser) To: coherent@csusac.ecs.csus.edu% Cc: root@csusac.ecs.csus.edu% Subject: RE: misc questions ( configurable at drive handler ) > From: csusac!uunet.UU.NET!mwc!hal (Hal Snyder) > To: cohmail@uunet.UU.NET > Subject: misc questions > > > ...the release notes don't say anything other than "COHERENT release 3.1 > > adds support for these drives during installation by 'patching' the disk > > parameters into the bootstrap and the /coherent image on the hard disk." > > The installation program in COHERENT 3.1.0 does the patching automatically. > Just before entering COHERENT fdisk, the program displays parameters as > determined by CMOS and BIOS, and asks if these values are correct. If you > say no, it will prompt you for changes and make the necessary patches. I don't remember seeing any questions like that when I installed the update. Was that in BOTH the 3.1.0 install and the 3.1.0.U install? Anyway its too late for the install. Since I've already installed the system what I'm going to have to do is to patch the kernel, do a backup of the system, reformat and partition the disk ( I only have 60 of the 80megs on the disk right now because of that being the closest entry in the BIOS table ), and then restore the system back. So the the question is the same. How and What do I do? Thanks for the prompt help happy new year! Joel M. Baldwin H ( 916 ) 383-9470 N6NPL W " 452-1481 uunet!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!citrus!root Sacramento CA. /\../\ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 90 16:02:00 GMT From: Kevin Purcell <KPURCELL@liverpool.ac.uk> To: curt@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca, Coherent distribution list <coherent> Subject: Re: Moving to an Alt group On Mon, 17 Dec 90 14:28:24 PST curt@ca.bc.wimsey.cynic said: >Kevin Purcell <KPURCELL@liverpool.ac.uk> writes: > >> On Fri, 14 Dec 90 16:09:02 CST Scott Rose (rose@edu.wisc.cs) said: >> [...] >> > >> >In any event, if and when a newsgroup is created, I will do my best to >> >gateway traffic to and from it- I *think* I have the technology to do >> >that in hand. If a comp group follows an alt group, I would propose to >> >drop gatewaying the alt traffic. >> >> This would give two distinct sites for Coherent info -- so to get the >> whole readership you would have to post to both (if you can) and then >> you have to read both. > >I think you misunderstood. As tradition has it, if comp.whatever >replaces alt.whatever, then alt.whatever is removed. I think I'm being misunderstood! The two sources are: the mailing list and alt.coherent|comp.os.coherent. I was being pessimistic in thinking the two would not be gatewayed together. If they are then that removes one of my objections. The mailing list wouldn't disappear (too many non-netnews people), so I'm unsure how much bandwidth you could plan on saving. There are a lot more Usenet sites that take alt.* than readers of this list so it seems that even when compressed the total bandwidth used will go up (perhaps with a different groups of folks paying for this bandwidth :-). So I think the "bandwidth saved" argument is spurious. Would many non-Coherent owners/potential owners read this group? >> I think splitting the community is a bad idea and USENET is notorious >> for its noise and "flaming behaviour". I prefer the mailing list (which >> would be almost as good if its advertise periodically on USENET): lower >> noise and everybody can get to it. > >The mailing list results in much higher noise in my mailbox. I've had >about 20 bounce messages in the last week (and this post will generate >at least two or three more). As well, a mailing list uses up many >times the bandwidth of a newsgroup. I don't think of bounced messages or even subscribe/unsubcribe messages as noise (though they can get tiresome after a while). They are easy to get rid of (N, d, next, +, PF2 or whatever your mailer does!). The messages I worry about contributing noise and wasting my time are the ones that contain no information and take time to read so you can find that out. The coherent list has had almost no flames (except for the database "ad" issue) with almost all the Q&A being of high quality. It would be a shame to lose this. My experience of a lot of alt.groups (normally the ones without a good "history") indicates a lot have appallingly bad S/N ratios. I would have no problem supporting a comp.os.coherent group, but as we stand I don't think we have the weight to get one, yet. The bottom line is: will alt.coherent be a high S/N group (a couple of good new group counter-examples would suffice :-) and will it speed the arrival of comp.os.coherent (which other groups went this way?)? >cjs >curt@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca | Your breathing goes wrong the minute your Kevin (who does read the news regularly!) _ . Kevin Purcell | kpurcell@liverpool.ac.uk _/ \ / \ kgp@cxa.dl.ac.uk Surface Science, | /----/^^^\ Liverpool University | There is now a damm fine /TWIN PEAKS\ email discussion Liverpool L69 3BX, UK | list for TPers. Mail me / / \ for details. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 90 15:20:06 +1100 From: s861019@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (George Seremetidis (Lips)) To: coherent Subject: device driver for SCSI I have been looking around for a cheapish UNIX and Coherent seems to fit the bill nicely. But before I committed myself I would like to know if it can support a SCSI hard disk on a Future Domain Controller. Does anyone know of this or could someone at MWC please comment on this. Thanks.... ------------------------------ Date: 27 Dec 90 13:00:07 From: mwc!hal@uunet.UU.NET (Hal Snyder) To: cohmail@uunet.UU.NET Subject: SCSI support COHERENT 3.1.0 now supports the Adaptec aha154x-series SCSI host adapter. We plan to add support for Western Digital, Future Domain, and Seagate adapters - probably in that order - in coming months. Adaptec and Western Digital adapters are intelligent, high-performance interfaces. Future Domain and Seagate adapters are inexpensive, low-end interfaces requiring considerably more support in software and offering less performance. Mark Williams Tech. Support (708)-291-6700 (voice) uunet!mwc!support (708)-291-6750 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 90 16:17:09 EST From: Tim buck <TIMBUCK@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU> To: coherent Subject: printers and modems I'm sure this is a frequently-asked question, but I can't find the answer anywhere, so please bear with me. I am a Coherent/Unix neophyte, and I can't get the @#%*! printer to work in Coherent! Every command I use that's supposed to write something to the printer responds with the error message "cannot open /dev/lp". What am I doing wrong? Another question: How do I initialize a modem for dial-in access? I can dial out using kermit, and it answers when I dial in, but it doesn't respond once it answers. FYI: I have a standard Epson-compatible printer connected to lpt1: I have a standard Hayes-compatible internal modem configured as COM3: ------------------------------ End of Coherent Digest Vol. 90.4, No. 5 *************************************** -- Scott Rose rose@cs.wisc.edu