[comp.os.cpm] AppleII <-> Kaypro format?

bill@sigma.UUCP (WIlliam Swan) (07/07/87)

(I ought to know the answer to this one - but don't!)

I have a disk in Apple II CP/M format, and need to transfer it 
to a Kaypro.

I have occasional access to a Kaypro (it actually belongs to my
mother, who needs the software and is 1000 kilometers away), and
none at all to an Apple.

Is there a utility that will read an Apple II CP/M disk on a
Kaypro? Are the formats even that compatible?

All pointers gladly accepted..

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samlb@well.UUCP (07/09/87)

	No can do -- Apple uses an entirely non-standard disk controller to
write the disks.  There _is_ a hardware mod for PCs which will let you read
Apple disks, but otherwise, sorrreeee...
	If you send me the Apple disk, I could upload the files and send them
to you via UUCP mail, or you could find someone locally (Call A.P.P.L.E., 
maybe) with a CP/M Apple, and arrange to take your Kaypro over there with a 
null modem cable and push 'em over a hardware line . . .
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bridger%rcc@RAND-UNIX.ARPA.UUCP (07/09/87)

Apples *record* data differently from cp/m and ms/dos disk
controllers, and there's no way the Kaypro's hardware can be made to
read or write a disk from an Apple disk controller.

For 100+ cp/m formats and ms/dos formats, there are format-to-format
copy programs.  Specifically for the Kaypro, Plu*Perfect Systems
has MULTICOPY, which runs on Kaypros with a TurboRom.  It supports
direct use of foreign formats as well as file-copying capability.
UniForm and MediaMaster are other file-copy utilities.

But for Apple <--> Kaypro, the best thing to do is hook up the two
machines with communications software and upload/download the files.
You'll need one communications program for each machine -- eg
MEX for Kaypro, AsciiExpress for Apple.

--bridger